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What's a language/domain/framework that's _not_ like this? After spending a few weeks struggling with Bazel and Spring you'll not convince me Java is any better
by ng12 8y ago
What's a language/domain/framework that's _not_ like this? After spending a few weeks struggling with Bazel and Spring you'll not convince me Java is any better.
- hactually 8y agoHad a colleague try and show me, a non Java guy, modern Java + maven + archetypes... It did a lot of downloading, a lot of building and then built something which, when we ran it, hung. I still have no idea what the demo was supposed to show me. Going to continue working with Go
- zmmmmm 8y agoActually, Java / JEE / Spring is the analogy I use when talking to people about the massive of complexity that is being created in the JavaScript ecosystem at the moment. As you create it, new complexity looks "free" because the creator understands it perfectly (they are creating it!) and their nearest peers understand it too (they have the same immediate problem as the creator!). But it's a one way path - like navigating through a complex maze - going forward is easy and you come out the other size eventually, but nobody will ever be able to retrace those steps. In the longer term the complexity has an enormously high price, and eventually it collapses in on itself - new developers just won't use it. Other ecosystems are complex but not at the same scale as those two IMHO, because different ecosystems seem to put a different price on complexity.
- JamesBarney 8y ago.NET has some warts but it's pretty plug and play. Exception are xamarin, which I give them a pass for because most cross platform technologies are a little rough getting started, and office 365 add-ons. I don't have any direct experience but I also assuming sharepoint is awful.
- GordonS 8y agoI use ASP.NET Core MVC, and it's wonderful. ASP.NET has really matured well, and it's honestly a joy to use.