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Very next article on my version of the page: "Europe’s Most Important River Is Running Dry" (because of climate change) Grow up, could there maybe be an upside

Very next article on my version of the page: "Europe’s Most Important River Is Running Dry" (because of climate change) Grow up, could there maybe be an upside to limiting emissions? One this writer with his childlike and provincial worldview can't appreciate? (Provincial because it's FAHREN auf der Autobahn, and childlike because the chosen substitute-word is "fun.") This isn't about your shallow "fun fun fun," it's about everybody's "death death death." And I hate to break it to you, but driving 100MPH on a German highway (which I'm pretty sure he's never done, or else he might've seen one or two signs with the words Fahren or Fahrt on them somewhere) might not be the only thing he'll have to say goodbye to. You actually should probably STOP ALTOGETHER hauling 2 tons of dead weight around with you everywhere, and do it TODAY, or be overrun with migrant refugees of drought, war, famine, and fascism tomorrow. (Or maybe your place succeeds in keeping them out, in which case you're probably in the fascist place from which you'll be the refugee.) Gauge how likely that future is, by the number of shallow and petulant downvotes this comment gets. I've pretty much accepted it as a near-certainty. It will precede the much-needed, massive die-off of homo sapiens back to a more sustainable population size.

antisthenes 8y ago
It's unfortunate that US will have to deal with its 'legacy' infrastructure built for 2 ton chunks of metal flying at 70mph. If cities were built up with appropriate density, we could all get by in compact 400-500kg battery vehicles limited to 35mph. And not have to deal with ridiculous landscape upkeep overhead as a bonus (I'd venture to say at least 60% of people in suburbia never really use their lawn).
petermcneeley 8y ago
"the much-needed, massive die-off of homo sapiens back to a more sustainable population size." Ah yes the Anti-human environmental movement! lets put those guys in charge!
- RealityVoid 8y ago
  I fail to understand this human-hating stance. It's very confusing to me especially seems it seems to be cheering the suffering and death of many people but the feeling seems to be prompted by the suffering and death of many people. It's simply confusing to me.
  - petermcneeley 8y ago
    I would guess that while logically inconsistent this stance actually fulfills a deep rooted biological program which is activated by the apparent scarcity of resources.
  - rdiddly 8y ago
    You guys are all missing the point. It doesn't matter who cheers, who "hates humans" (which is a ridiculous oversimplification) or who's "in charge" (since no one is). It doesn't matter if you like it or hate it. Is it "anti-rain" or "pro-rain" to notice a heavy rain cloud? I dunno but the rain absolutely doesn't care what you think. It doesn't even mind if you disingenuously reduce the issue to the same old simplistic pro/anti binary. If you have the basic powers of observation of natural laws, and aren't so vain as to believe humans are exempt from them, you can see this coming. I've already gone through my 5 stages of grief about it, that's what you're picking up on. It's not anti-human; driving your car is anti-human. To the tune of 35,000 Americans killed every year by it, and that's just from crashes. Don't blame me for how you feel when you hear the bad news for what I'm pretty sure is not the first time. The pro-human approach would be to see this coming ahead of time and actually manage the transition. EDIT: ...like Germany is trying to do (a step in the right direction, but probably not enough and not fast enough)
    - petermcneeley 8y ago
      Most European style countries are doing just fine (including japan and korea). Small populations and moderate to negative birthrates. Great environmental laws and various forms of recycling and waste management. Various technological developments reduce overall resource consumption. In many of these countries there even internalized personal beliefs that reduce urban pollution. Do you think nature can even hold a candle to these organized peoples? You think these people are afraid of water? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlands#/media/File:The_Netherlands_compared_to_sealevel.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlan...

antisthenes 8y ago

It's unfortunate that US will have to deal with its 'legacy' infrastructure built for 2 ton chunks of metal flying at 70mph. If cities were built up with appropriate density, we could all get by in compact 400-500kg battery vehicles limited to 35mph. And not have to deal with ridiculous landscape upkeep overhead as a bonus (I'd venture to say at least 60% of people in suburbia never really use their lawn).

petermcneeley 8y ago

"the much-needed, massive die-off of homo sapiens back to a more sustainable population size." Ah yes the Anti-human environmental movement! lets put those guys in charge!

RealityVoid 8y ago
I fail to understand this human-hating stance. It's very confusing to me especially seems it seems to be cheering the suffering and death of many people but the feeling seems to be prompted by the suffering and death of many people. It's simply confusing to me.
- petermcneeley 8y ago
  I would guess that while logically inconsistent this stance actually fulfills a deep rooted biological program which is activated by the apparent scarcity of resources.
- rdiddly 8y ago
  You guys are all missing the point. It doesn't matter who cheers, who "hates humans" (which is a ridiculous oversimplification) or who's "in charge" (since no one is). It doesn't matter if you like it or hate it. Is it "anti-rain" or "pro-rain" to notice a heavy rain cloud? I dunno but the rain absolutely doesn't care what you think. It doesn't even mind if you disingenuously reduce the issue to the same old simplistic pro/anti binary. If you have the basic powers of observation of natural laws, and aren't so vain as to believe humans are exempt from them, you can see this coming. I've already gone through my 5 stages of grief about it, that's what you're picking up on. It's not anti-human; driving your car is anti-human. To the tune of 35,000 Americans killed every year by it, and that's just from crashes. Don't blame me for how you feel when you hear the bad news for what I'm pretty sure is not the first time. The pro-human approach would be to see this coming ahead of time and actually manage the transition. EDIT: ...like Germany is trying to do (a step in the right direction, but probably not enough and not fast enough)
  - petermcneeley 8y ago
    Most European style countries are doing just fine (including japan and korea). Small populations and moderate to negative birthrates. Great environmental laws and various forms of recycling and waste management. Various technological developments reduce overall resource consumption. In many of these countries there even internalized personal beliefs that reduce urban pollution. Do you think nature can even hold a candle to these organized peoples? You think these people are afraid of water? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlands#/media/File:The_Netherlands_compared_to_sealevel.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlan...