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A bit confused they used the nickname 'Iceman'. That's the nickname of the well known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski https://en.wikipedia.org/w

A bit confused they used the nickname 'Iceman'. That's the nickname of the well known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski

renholder 8y ago
I imagine that's the nickname he had in English (?) the gang, yeah? They're probably can't be arsed to keep track of the used and infamous nicknames from gangs in the states.
- tapland 8y ago
  The iceman nickname wasn't used for Kuklinsky in the mob. It was during media attention for his claimed body count of 200+ as a serial killer and mob hitman. Jack the Ripper has nothing on Kuklinski, but people can remember both.
  - renholder 8y ago
    Fellows was in a gang in the UK... That was his nickname in the gang in the UK. There's a vast ocean betwixt the states and England. While it's true that people can remember both names, it's far more likely that, in the UK, they'll remember the names of those closer to home - of the likes of Harold Shipman.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  It could also be that the UK gang knew they were reusing a name, and considered that reuse part of their opsec. If anybody ever overheard the wrong conversation, they'd hear the name of a known and convicted hitman, which might lead them to believe the discussion they overheard was more mundane than they might otherwise have thought. For instance, battle tanks are called "tanks" today because when they were being developed by the British during WWI, they wanted a word that would obscure meaning to anybody who happened to overhear the word. They were originally called "Caterpillar Machine Gun Destroyers or Land Cruisers", which was very descriptive, so they decided to call them "water containers" instead. W.C. was considered an unsuitable initialism though, so they so they settled on "tank" as in "water tank". That name stuck so well, today most people never suspect it was originally meant to obscure meaning. But at the time, any german spy who overheard the wrong conversation would think the british were discussing a method of transporting water.
reshie 8y ago
the ice man you speak of was called that because he stored bodies in ice lockers but it has also been used as a moniker ie iced(probably related to the ice man) and is used to mean a hit or assassination. serial killers nikenames get reused as well like ripper killer monster strangler etc.
onetimemanytime 8y ago
Luca Brasi? Saw the HBO documentary, psychopath if there was one (not that I can diagnose him but based on what I've read about the condition.) After a few killings it may make no difference, like killing chickens day in and day out.
toyg 8y ago
Well, that’s also the nickname of Kimi Räikkönen, F1 driver, and probably a dozen other famous sportsmen known for their cold calculation under pressure. It’s just a common nick for calm people.

A bit confused they used the nickname 'Iceman'. That's the nickname of the well known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski

renholder 8y ago

I imagine that's the nickname he had in English (?) the gang, yeah? They're probably can't be arsed to keep track of the used and infamous nicknames from gangs in the states.

tapland 8y ago
The iceman nickname wasn't used for Kuklinsky in the mob. It was during media attention for his claimed body count of 200+ as a serial killer and mob hitman. Jack the Ripper has nothing on Kuklinski, but people can remember both.
- renholder 8y ago
  Fellows was in a gang in the UK... That was his nickname in the gang in the UK. There's a vast ocean betwixt the states and England. While it's true that people can remember both names, it's far more likely that, in the UK, they'll remember the names of those closer to home - of the likes of Harold Shipman.
darkpuma 8y ago
It could also be that the UK gang knew they were reusing a name, and considered that reuse part of their opsec. If anybody ever overheard the wrong conversation, they'd hear the name of a known and convicted hitman, which might lead them to believe the discussion they overheard was more mundane than they might otherwise have thought. For instance, battle tanks are called "tanks" today because when they were being developed by the British during WWI, they wanted a word that would obscure meaning to anybody who happened to overhear the word. They were originally called "Caterpillar Machine Gun Destroyers or Land Cruisers", which was very descriptive, so they decided to call them "water containers" instead. W.C. was considered an unsuitable initialism though, so they so they settled on "tank" as in "water tank". That name stuck so well, today most people never suspect it was originally meant to obscure meaning. But at the time, any german spy who overheard the wrong conversation would think the british were discussing a method of transporting water.

reshie 8y ago

the ice man you speak of was called that because he stored bodies in ice lockers but it has also been used as a moniker ie iced(probably related to the ice man) and is used to mean a hit or assassination. serial killers nikenames get reused as well like ripper killer monster strangler etc.

onetimemanytime 8y ago

Luca Brasi? Saw the HBO documentary, psychopath if there was one (not that I can diagnose him but based on what I've read about the condition.) After a few killings it may make no difference, like killing chickens day in and day out.

toyg 8y ago

Well, that’s also the nickname of Kimi Räikkönen, F1 driver, and probably a dozen other famous sportsmen known for their cold calculation under pressure. It’s just a common nick for calm people.