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It's just code bugs, they're easy to forgive when they get fixed. How much code is in a laptop prior to installing an operating system, it must be a lot with m

It's just code bugs, they're easy to forgive when they get fixed. How much code is in a laptop prior to installing an operating system, it must be a lot with modern hardware. Management bugs on the other hand are harder to forgive, like that time Lenovo shipped rootkits, or the many times Apple has simply lied about bad hardware design, or that time Facebook decided not to refund children based on if it was their parents asking... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9gsp0m/what_is_the_most_evil_company_and_why/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9gsp0m/what_is_t...

rayiner 8y ago
I disagree. Apple hardware has had some quirks, but over aggressive throttling is far more forgivable than basic functionality simply not working. My laptop is a tool—it needs to work.
- benologist 8y ago
  How about when Apple denied 2017's keyboards were shit then they denied it again and again until in 2018 whilst continuing to deny it they iterated on the design to fix the problem and launched a 4 year replacement program for devices otherwise likely to last 10+ years? How much is the EU going to spend in 2021 fighting Apple when the keyboard replacements are still required and cost $700... How about bent iPads, badly soldered nVidia chips, fraying cables etc? Code mistakes (sometimes) just get fixed instead of shielded with lies to avoid liability for avoidable mistakes.
  - jplayer01 8y ago
    Code mistakes, especially when it comes to firmware and drivers generally don't get fixed the same way hardware issues often don't. Neither is acceptable and I don't see why you're trying to argue Apple is worse when they're both terrible companies with terrible behavior.
    - benologist 8y ago
      Highlighting some examples of Apple's unethical behavior is not saying another company is better or that Apple are worse.

rayiner 8y ago

I disagree. Apple hardware has had some quirks, but over aggressive throttling is far more forgivable than basic functionality simply not working. My laptop is a tool—it needs to work.

benologist 8y ago
How about when Apple denied 2017's keyboards were shit then they denied it again and again until in 2018 whilst continuing to deny it they iterated on the design to fix the problem and launched a 4 year replacement program for devices otherwise likely to last 10+ years? How much is the EU going to spend in 2021 fighting Apple when the keyboard replacements are still required and cost $700... How about bent iPads, badly soldered nVidia chips, fraying cables etc? Code mistakes (sometimes) just get fixed instead of shielded with lies to avoid liability for avoidable mistakes.
- jplayer01 8y ago
  Code mistakes, especially when it comes to firmware and drivers generally don't get fixed the same way hardware issues often don't. Neither is acceptable and I don't see why you're trying to argue Apple is worse when they're both terrible companies with terrible behavior.
  - benologist 8y ago
    Highlighting some examples of Apple's unethical behavior is not saying another company is better or that Apple are worse.