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Many modern snowboard boots have a pretty impressive ratchet system with steel laces that allows me to get a very tight fit easily (no yanking on laces required

Many modern snowboard boots have a pretty impressive ratchet system with steel laces that allows me to get a very tight fit easily (no yanking on laces required), with instant push-button release. https://www.burton.com/us/en/p/mens-burton-photon-boa-snowboard-boot/W19-150861.html https://www.burton.com/us/en/p/mens-burton-photon-boa-snowbo... It's unclear to me whether basketball shoes lack this system for good ergonomic/structural reasons or because of marketing/style/tradition.

yters 8y ago
We are unable to mechanically amplify force without the internet of things. Sorry Archimedes.
Marsymars 8y ago
There exist plenty of non-snowboard boots with the Boa system. For instance, Boa's running shoe category: https://www.boafit.com/category/run https://www.boafit.com/category/run I've had some Boa snowboard boots, and they've been good, but I've transitioned to non-ratcheting/non-metal quicklace systems. I find them somewhat more durable and easier to make fine adjustments to, while being nearly as quick/easy to use.
- ewokone 8y ago
  Hey marsi, Which shoes did you transfer to?
  - Marsymars 8y ago
    Currently the Burton Driver X. I don't ride park, and like them a lot.
- stinos 8y ago
  easier to make fine adjustments to Experienced the same. Boa is pretty good, but it seems to tighten almost uniformly along the length of the cable. Which is probably ideal if your boot has a perfect fit to your foot, but otherwise becomes a pain in the, eh, foot. I have problems with pressure on the top of my feet and with the boa system it seems there's either too much pressure there or not tight enough around the legs. Might be resolved by finding the proper fit but laces are really more forgiving when it comes to that.
  - dubyah 8y ago
    Many of the newer or at least better lacing systems for snowboard boots use separate controls for foot & leg or liner & shell. Tongue shims on your liners might help. A replacement heat molded liner is another option.
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jasonwatkinspdx 8y ago
Salomon sells cross trainers that use a cable system. I've had two pairs. Both broke within about 2 years.
russdill 8y ago
I'm guessing that basketball shoes are extremely weight sensitive whereas snow board boots are not. Anything that adds weight to an athletic shoe better be adding a bigger advantage than self tying.
- jessriedel 8y ago
  You could be right, although the Boa mechanism is really very small. The laces are metal (I think) but much thinner.

yters 8y ago

We are unable to mechanically amplify force without the internet of things. Sorry Archimedes.

Marsymars 8y ago

There exist plenty of non-snowboard boots with the Boa system. For instance, Boa's running shoe category: https://www.boafit.com/category/run https://www.boafit.com/category/run I've had some Boa snowboard boots, and they've been good, but I've transitioned to non-ratcheting/non-metal quicklace systems. I find them somewhat more durable and easier to make fine adjustments to, while being nearly as quick/easy to use.

ewokone 8y ago
Hey marsi, Which shoes did you transfer to?
- Marsymars 8y ago
  Currently the Burton Driver X. I don't ride park, and like them a lot.
stinos 8y ago
easier to make fine adjustments to Experienced the same. Boa is pretty good, but it seems to tighten almost uniformly along the length of the cable. Which is probably ideal if your boot has a perfect fit to your foot, but otherwise becomes a pain in the, eh, foot. I have problems with pressure on the top of my feet and with the boa system it seems there's either too much pressure there or not tight enough around the legs. Might be resolved by finding the proper fit but laces are really more forgiving when it comes to that.
- dubyah 8y ago
  Many of the newer or at least better lacing systems for snowboard boots use separate controls for foot & leg or liner & shell. Tongue shims on your liners might help. A replacement heat molded liner is another option.

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jasonwatkinspdx 8y ago

Salomon sells cross trainers that use a cable system. I've had two pairs. Both broke within about 2 years.

russdill 8y ago

I'm guessing that basketball shoes are extremely weight sensitive whereas snow board boots are not. Anything that adds weight to an athletic shoe better be adding a bigger advantage than self tying.

jessriedel 8y ago
You could be right, although the Boa mechanism is really very small. The laces are metal (I think) but much thinner.