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This is the third time im seeing them messing up- the news yesterday about trump was something

by fxfan 8y ago

ryanlol 8y ago
I don't think its very clear that they messed up the Trump story, special counsels office called it inaccurate but I don't really see any reason to blindly believe them.
- fxfan 8y ago
  Look I'm a liberal and all but at this point im beginning to wonder if my side is really stupid or just doesn't want to believe in reality?
  - ryanlol 8y ago
    I certainly don't blindly believe the BuzzFeed story either. Actually, I haven't even bothered to read it as I don't really care very much about the US president. I find it bizarre that you think that being a liberal has anything to do with this.
    - akiselev 8y ago
      Proclaiming yourself to be a member of the "other" side to try to undermine their arguments by association is becoming a favorite tactic of trolls.
      - linkingday 8y ago
        Doing exactly that is called 'concern-trolling'
      - toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
        It is, but it’s easy to undermine without resorting to accusations of trolling, by pointing out that attacks on the character of a source of information rather than critique of the information is unconvincing. It also helps as ryanlol did, to point out non sequiturs such as injections identity politics into the mix for no good reason.
      - IgorPartola 8y ago
        Especially the way this is phrased. “I am a liberal” is not something liberals actually say. For Reddit there is a Chrome plug-in that lets you highlight users who frequently post on specifically troll-heavy subreddits such as The_Donald so you can spot this kind of shit easily.
        EasyTiger_ 8y ago
        Please leave your toxicity on reddit.
      - joejerryronnie 8y ago
        True, but assuming that everybody's general world view matches our own is what got Trump elected in the first place.
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- empath75 8y ago
  My guess is they do have actual law enforcement sources who told them what they reported but their sources were wrong.
revscat 8y ago
I’m not sure they messed up. Go read the Special Counsel’s statement. They say the “characterization” was wrong, not the facts. And when specifically asked, no one in the Administration has actually denied the allegations that Trump directed Cohen to lie.
- BurningFrog 8y ago
  I don't think Mueller breaks his silence for the first time in 2 years to comment on a news story, just to adjust some marginal details.
  - chris11 8y ago
    This is slightly different though, the Democrats did just take over the House. So a somewhat inaccurate story has a much greater impact on congressional investigations. I'm thinking that Buzzfeed wrote a well-sourced story that wasn't entirely correct. I don't know how inaccurate it was, I'll have to wait until investigations are made public, so I don't think we should believe the Buzzfeed story. But I also don't think that everything in the story was false, and I'm not sure that they badly messed up.

This is the third time im seeing them messing up- the news yesterday about trump was something

by fxfan 8y ago

This is the third time im seeing them messing up- the news yesterday about trump was something

I don't think its very clear that they messed up the Trump story, special counsels office called it inaccurate but I don't really see any reason to blindly believe them.

fxfan 8y ago
Look I'm a liberal and all but at this point im beginning to wonder if my side is really stupid or just doesn't want to believe in reality?
- ryanlol 8y ago
  I certainly don't blindly believe the BuzzFeed story either. Actually, I haven't even bothered to read it as I don't really care very much about the US president. I find it bizarre that you think that being a liberal has anything to do with this.
  - akiselev 8y ago
    Proclaiming yourself to be a member of the "other" side to try to undermine their arguments by association is becoming a favorite tactic of trolls.
    - linkingday 8y ago
      Doing exactly that is called 'concern-trolling'
    - toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
      It is, but it’s easy to undermine without resorting to accusations of trolling, by pointing out that attacks on the character of a source of information rather than critique of the information is unconvincing. It also helps as ryanlol did, to point out non sequiturs such as injections identity politics into the mix for no good reason.
    - IgorPartola 8y ago
      Especially the way this is phrased. “I am a liberal” is not something liberals actually say. For Reddit there is a Chrome plug-in that lets you highlight users who frequently post on specifically troll-heavy subreddits such as The_Donald so you can spot this kind of shit easily.
      - EasyTiger_ 8y ago
        Please leave your toxicity on reddit.
    - joejerryronnie 8y ago
      True, but assuming that everybody's general world view matches our own is what got Trump elected in the first place.
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empath75 8y ago
My guess is they do have actual law enforcement sources who told them what they reported but their sources were wrong.

revscat 8y ago

I’m not sure they messed up. Go read the Special Counsel’s statement. They say the “characterization” was wrong, not the facts. And when specifically asked, no one in the Administration has actually denied the allegations that Trump directed Cohen to lie.

BurningFrog 8y ago
I don't think Mueller breaks his silence for the first time in 2 years to comment on a news story, just to adjust some marginal details.
- chris11 8y ago
  This is slightly different though, the Democrats did just take over the House. So a somewhat inaccurate story has a much greater impact on congressional investigations. I'm thinking that Buzzfeed wrote a well-sourced story that wasn't entirely correct. I don't know how inaccurate it was, I'll have to wait until investigations are made public, so I don't think we should believe the Buzzfeed story. But I also don't think that everything in the story was false, and I'm not sure that they badly messed up.