4 ms·
This is why we need unions.
by omouse 8y ago
This is why we need unions.
- ralusek 8y agoPlease no.
- acdha 8y agoCan you state why, with supporting evidence rather than “everyone knows” retelling of propaganda?
- tchaffee 8y agoOr just much stronger labor laws with harsher penalties that make it not worth discriminating. In terms of being realistic about what might happen I think stronger laws would be easier to achieve than getting programmers to unionize.
- luckydata 8y agoYou don't get better labor laws without unions. You just don't.
- justtopost 8y agoTo call that unverifiable would be polite. Do you have any evidince to support your claim?
- jahaja 8y agoUhm, compare western European labour laws with US labour laws?
- tchaffee 8y agoCan you provide a source backing this up? I worked in the EU for many years and was never a member of a union. I worked in technology. However I enjoyed strong labor laws. It could be as simple as voters choosing politicians who promise strong labor laws? So it's not self-evident that unions were involved.
- jahaja 8y agoI thought it was self-evident that most western European countries have a long tradition of social democratic parties with strong trade union connections. Those politicians to vote for doesn't come about magically. In the US there's no such options, just two right-wing parties, and that's reflected in their labour laws. The labour movement in large have provided those options in Europe and the trade unions are where the practical power is through the threat or use of strikes etc.
- tchaffee 8y agoIt's not self-evident that the unions played any role or a strong role. If it had been, I wouldn't have asked for a source. It's a sincere request. I lived there for a long time and am not aware that unions themselves were responsible for the strong labor laws.