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Im glad to see now support was found for 11/13, but Im afraid they'll poke their nasty heads in the near future. Now if we could only get GDPR trimmed down to h

by lbj 8y ago

Im glad to see now support was found for 11/13, but Im afraid they'll poke their nasty heads in the near future. Now if we could only get GDPR trimmed down to half its current size and remove all the ambiguities I'd be thrilled.

Mirioron 8y ago
Add a minimum threshold of company size, revenue, and data amount to GDPR. This would get rid of the biggest problems with it. In practice it already works that way.
- efdee 8y ago
  ... there is a minimum threshold on at least company size and revenue built into the GDPR.
  - Matticus_Rex 8y ago
    No, there isn't. There's a minimum threshold for some extra burdens, but the vast majority of the burden has no minimum threshold (other than the fact that entirely personal activities of individuals aren't included).
- GordonS 8y ago
  As a small business owner who can see things from both sides of GDPR, I disagree - GDPR really isn't that difficult to comply with.
- kolinko 8y ago
  For GDPR and for VAT. After the changes 2 years ago, you have to sign up for that system to track which country's citizens buy your stuff, and pay VAT on a per-country level, with no minimums. From a perspective of SAAS / digital products it's a huge pain in the ass now. If I want to sell my app or online service now I have a lot of paperwork to fill in from the get-go.
- icebraining 8y ago
  And then the big players will use Hollywood accounting but for data - make a bunch of small companies with little revenue that handle the actual data and "sell" those services to the mothership. The whole point of using revenue-based fines was to avoid such tricks, and you want to add them back in?
  - Mirioron 8y ago
    The fine says "$20 million or 4% global revenue, whichever is greater". That definitely penalizes small companies more. >And then the big players will use Hollywood accounting but for data - make a bunch of small companies with little revenue that handle the actual data and "sell" those services to the mothership. This is why there would be a threshold on data itself. Come on, a guy running a forum with 100 users from his basement shouldn't be expected to legally have as much responsibility as somebody running a website that has revenue in the millions. It just discourages start ups and hobby developers, because nobody wants to open themselves up to "denial of service attacks" where people get the DPA to audit you because they didn't like what you had to say on Twitter. Just don't run the small site and there is no risk of that. But I guess Europe is already so weak in the web industry that it might be irrelevant. We're going to rely on American websites anyway.

by lbj 8y ago

Mirioron 8y ago

Add a minimum threshold of company size, revenue, and data amount to GDPR. This would get rid of the biggest problems with it. In practice it already works that way.

efdee 8y ago
... there is a minimum threshold on at least company size and revenue built into the GDPR.
- Matticus_Rex 8y ago
  No, there isn't. There's a minimum threshold for some extra burdens, but the vast majority of the burden has no minimum threshold (other than the fact that entirely personal activities of individuals aren't included).
GordonS 8y ago
As a small business owner who can see things from both sides of GDPR, I disagree - GDPR really isn't that difficult to comply with.
kolinko 8y ago
For GDPR and for VAT. After the changes 2 years ago, you have to sign up for that system to track which country's citizens buy your stuff, and pay VAT on a per-country level, with no minimums. From a perspective of SAAS / digital products it's a huge pain in the ass now. If I want to sell my app or online service now I have a lot of paperwork to fill in from the get-go.
icebraining 8y ago
And then the big players will use Hollywood accounting but for data - make a bunch of small companies with little revenue that handle the actual data and "sell" those services to the mothership. The whole point of using revenue-based fines was to avoid such tricks, and you want to add them back in?
- Mirioron 8y ago
  The fine says "$20 million or 4% global revenue, whichever is greater". That definitely penalizes small companies more. >And then the big players will use Hollywood accounting but for data - make a bunch of small companies with little revenue that handle the actual data and "sell" those services to the mothership. This is why there would be a threshold on data itself. Come on, a guy running a forum with 100 users from his basement shouldn't be expected to legally have as much responsibility as somebody running a website that has revenue in the millions. It just discourages start ups and hobby developers, because nobody wants to open themselves up to "denial of service attacks" where people get the DPA to audit you because they didn't like what you had to say on Twitter. Just don't run the small site and there is no risk of that. But I guess Europe is already so weak in the web industry that it might be irrelevant. We're going to rely on American websites anyway.