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I think you're right in principle but too binary and extreme. You sort of make it sound like people think the internet is completely secure, and you're encoura

I think you're right in principle but too binary and extreme. You sort of make it sound like people think the internet is completely secure, and you're encouraging them to assume it's completely insecure. In reality it's more like fairly skeptical people using a secure-ish internet. If you're pretty obscure and conservative you're secure enough in practice.

VikingCoder 8y ago
Once upon a time, a country started killing their own citizens. Because of some ancestry they had, or disease, or were a member of some religion, or they used their genitals in a certain way, or co-habitated with someone like that. Oh wait, that's happened again, and again, and again. Which specific kinds of people were the targets has changed repeatedly over the years. Literally no one has an absolute guarantee that either they, or their family or children, are without a shadow of doubt free from this concern ever happening to them. We thought we were anonymous. We thought we were secure. We underestimated how easy it would be to track, correlate, and analyze us. None of us are safe. None of us have the privacy or security we should. > If you're pretty obscure and conservative you're secure enough in practice. You're ignoring the black swans of politics, hackers, militias, etc. Yes, sure, we're probably all 99.99% safe. But 3 billion people are online. That math alone says 300,000 of the people online are not safe. Do you really think we're 99.99% safe? I think we're already tagged and manipulated like cattle. I already think that mega-corporations know entirely too much. I think we're already not safe. Equifax leaks alone prove that to me. Heck, later down the HN front page today: https://www.zdnet.com/article/wifi-firmware-bug-affects-laptops-smartphones-routers-gaming-devices/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/wifi-firmware-bug-affects-lapt...

VikingCoder 8y ago

Once upon a time, a country started killing their own citizens. Because of some ancestry they had, or disease, or were a member of some religion, or they used their genitals in a certain way, or co-habitated with someone like that. Oh wait, that's happened again, and again, and again. Which specific kinds of people were the targets has changed repeatedly over the years. Literally no one has an absolute guarantee that either they, or their family or children, are without a shadow of doubt free from this concern ever happening to them. We thought we were anonymous. We thought we were secure. We underestimated how easy it would be to track, correlate, and analyze us. None of us are safe. None of us have the privacy or security we should. > If you're pretty obscure and conservative you're secure enough in practice. You're ignoring the black swans of politics, hackers, militias, etc. Yes, sure, we're probably all 99.99% safe. But 3 billion people are online. That math alone says 300,000 of the people online are not safe. Do you really think we're 99.99% safe? I think we're already tagged and manipulated like cattle. I already think that mega-corporations know entirely too much. I think we're already not safe. Equifax leaks alone prove that to me. Heck, later down the HN front page today: https://www.zdnet.com/article/wifi-firmware-bug-affects-laptops-smartphones-routers-gaming-devices/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/wifi-firmware-bug-affects-lapt...