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> decline in world-wide health Wat. Data please.
by squirrelicus 8y ago
> decline in world-wide health
Wat. Data please.
- FranzFerdiNaN 8y agoEvery nation that switches to a western (American) diet gets fat.
- Udik 8y agoAmerican, maybe. Western, really? https://www.google.com/amp/s/bigthink.com/two-maps-and-one-graph-comparing-obesity-in-america-and-europe-2604513773.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/bigthink.com/two-maps-and-one-g... It seems that obesity in Europe affects 1/4 to 1/5, while in the US is 1/3. The EU country with highest incidence of obesity is alse the one that is famous for its lack of a (decent) food culture, the UK. As an Italian, I find it hard to convince myself that US obesity problems have one single cause to blame, sugar, rather than a food culture that is generally bent towards the childishly fancy: grilled meat, fried stuff, overwhelming sauces, the super-fatty, the uber-sugary, no vegetables and very little home cooking.
- stareatgoats 8y agoAmerican food culture suffers from the same problem that afflicts the American culture in general: the infatuation with big: big cars, big army, big dicks, big coffee-mugs, big tits. And big soft-drinks. No surprise they have an obesity problem. Of course Americans are also usually nice people in a big way, let's not forget.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago> big cars, big army, big dicks, big coffee-mugs, big tits. And big soft-drinks. One of these things is not like the others... Buying big soft drink bottles instead of small is both cost-effective (as they're usually cheaper per liter) and a plastic saving measure. (What I particularly dislike about modern consumerism is the infatuation with small: small bags of chips, small bags of fruits, individually-packaged sausages, small bottles of drinks, small bottles/bags of cosmetics, etc. Combined with disposability of packaging, it's just a huge generator of plastic waste.)
- williamdclt 8y agoI think the person you're answering to is talking about big cup of soft-drink, rather than big bottle. As in, big portions, not big stock. Edit: I agree with your complaint about packaging, but it's another problem that's not uncompatible
- babuskov 8y ago> Buying big soft drink bottles instead of small is both cost-effective Carbonated drinks fizzle out quickly and they don't taste that good afterwards. So, if you buy bigger bottles, you are inclined to drink more so it doesn't go to waste.
- Reason077 8y ago> "Buying big soft drink bottles instead of small is both cost-effective" True, but bigger serving sizes have been shown to increase consumption. If you reduce soft-drink serving sizes from 500ml to 350ml, for example, most people will not purchase two - and will consume less overall.
- jkaplowitz 8y agoI like small for consumption on the go, such as waiting for a train or bus, without wasting food/drink or overeating ... But I do agree with you about plastic waste. I'd prefer some other packaging solution, such as if a snack vending machine could sanitarily transfer the contents of a bag of chips to my own reusable, washable, foldable (when empty) snack bag. No, I don't have a good practical answer right now.
- wool_gather 8y agoNot a bad idea. Nobody seems to have a problem with the coffee bean dispensing bins at the grocery store, so maybe this isn't that far out.
- jononor 8y agoNot buying soft drinks is much better, both cost efficiency, environmental impact and health.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoAmerica also lacks the density of Europe, the public transportation and the generally walkable and bikable built environments. It's probably not merely our lousy diets.
- dalore 8y agoHave a read of books by Nina Teicholz or Gary Taubes. In there is a mountain of data showing the correlation of diets to adopting the national dietary recommendation (which vilified fats). They all make a great case that fat is good for you (proper fat like animal, not vegetables oils which really aren't from vegetables at all). You're right it's more than just sugar, it's carbs in general. Which includes French fries, pizza etc. The sauces they have tend to be loaded with sugar also. One can still be healthy eating no vegetables and just meat. Just cut out carbs. And eat lots of organ meats which have high vitamin content (more than vegetables). Another problem with cutting the fat is that vitamins are fat soluble. So no fat makes it harder to absorb.
- inertiatic 8y ago>One can still be healthy eating no vegetables and just meat. Haha wow. Citation absolutely needed.
- chefkoch 8y ago>roper fat like animal, not vegetables oils which really aren't from vegetables at all Why is the oil not from vegetables?
- ericd 8y ago
- Retric 8y agoUS life expectancy is dropping. Globally obesity is on the rise. Those things are correlated.