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It seems to me that it would be in the best (financial) interests of big tobacco and pharma that vaping be outlawed entirely. Failing that they would probably

It seems to me that it would be in the best (financial) interests of big tobacco and pharma that vaping be outlawed entirely. Failing that they would probably both find it in the their best interests to force companies who want to produce vape related products through a regulatory process so expensive that only massive companies such as Marlboro or Pfizer can afford to comply - can’t have the little guy taking a slice of their poison pie. I think that if kids are going to try nicotine (and let’s face it - they are) better it be through a vape than a cigarette. Anecdotally as a person who has sometimes smoked as many as 100+ cigarettes a day - I am finding vaping to be helpful in quitting the horrible cigarettes and if it were not offered as an alternative, would probably go back to smoking because none of the other cessation methods have been effective for me. I know both smoking and vaping are far from ideal but the lesser of two evils is still better any way you slice it. When you have something that is taking significant profits from big companies, one of the first ports of call for them is to whip up some hysteria along the lines of “think of the children” if applicable. The rhetoric surrounding this appeals to something deep within human nature and it becomes trivial to demonise people who have a contrary point of view - in this case people who happen to be proponents of harm reduction and freedom of choice.

a11595 8y ago
The big tobacco companies sell plenty of vaping products. Vaping is something lots of kids will start - kids who would never start actual smoking. Why would they want vaping to be outlawed when they're making money from it? You are approaching this from the wrong viewpoint. There are two customers for vape. You and me, who vape instead of smoking. There are also people who vape but would not instead smoke. That second one is a huge market. I also see nothing requiring regulation or sin taxes for vaping. This is just plain wrong, and idiots started vape paranoia, flat lies in TV commercials, and misinformation campaigns. Yes, being addicted to anything is bad. Nicotine is not nearly bad enough - a burger is worse, alcohol is worse, living in a high-traffic area is worse. People have no problem stuffing their face with ribs and cake. What we need is to take away rights from the government to forcefully be your nanny. On a side-note - it's complete BS that I can't vape mild ginseng flavor at my desk, but the Indian guy next to me can fill the whole freaking room with curry goat smell for hours after eating lunch at his desk, and the fat white guy can fill the room with the smell of shit an hour after eating a greasy burrito. I mean - really? Ginseng extract and glycerine are outlawed indoors, but tiny molecules of someone's shit are fine?

a11595 8y ago

The big tobacco companies sell plenty of vaping products. Vaping is something lots of kids will start - kids who would never start actual smoking. Why would they want vaping to be outlawed when they're making money from it? You are approaching this from the wrong viewpoint. There are two customers for vape. You and me, who vape instead of smoking. There are also people who vape but would not instead smoke. That second one is a huge market. I also see nothing requiring regulation or sin taxes for vaping. This is just plain wrong, and idiots started vape paranoia, flat lies in TV commercials, and misinformation campaigns. Yes, being addicted to anything is bad. Nicotine is not nearly bad enough - a burger is worse, alcohol is worse, living in a high-traffic area is worse. People have no problem stuffing their face with ribs and cake. What we need is to take away rights from the government to forcefully be your nanny. On a side-note - it's complete BS that I can't vape mild ginseng flavor at my desk, but the Indian guy next to me can fill the whole freaking room with curry goat smell for hours after eating lunch at his desk, and the fat white guy can fill the room with the smell of shit an hour after eating a greasy burrito. I mean - really? Ginseng extract and glycerine are outlawed indoors, but tiny molecules of someone's shit are fine?