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Btw why are the points about asking for votes or comments not part of the guidelines but only part of the FAQ? The usual understanding for me is that guideline

Btw why are the points about asking for votes or comments not part of the guidelines but only part of the FAQ? The usual understanding for me is that guidelines should be read and followed, while FAQ provide additional information on topics that are asked a lot (password reset, what does XYZ mean, etc).

omnimus 8y ago
Honestly i don't know what you are talking about. There are many products that launch on hacker news.
- eXpl0it3r 8y ago
  sctb is a moderator (kind of annoying that you have to google that) [1] and given their statement it indicates that "soliciting upvotes and booster comments" is disallowed/discouraged. Yet, that information is not part of the official HN guidelines [2] but is merely mentioned in the HN FAQ [3]. My point being, if telling your users about the HN post you created is disallowed, then why is it not part of the guidelines and merely hidden among the FAQ? Like I said, guidelines are to be read and followed, but I wouldn't expect from people to read the FAQ to find all the 'rules'. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
  - omnimus 8y ago
    Oh i understand now. Well it is obvious people don't understand it works like that. From outside it seems that it is perfectly normal to share products and updates HN. It seems to happen all the time often with authors or employees in the comments. So what is prohibited is to share the direct link?
    - dang 8y ago
      Obviously submitting links to one's own work isn't prohibited. It's encouraged! What's not allowed are asking friends or teammates to upvote and/or post booster comments in the thread. Those are forms of gaming the system which the community here is not ok with. People should upvote or comment on things that they personally ran across and found intellectually interesting, not because they or a friend have something to promote.
      - bastianallgeier 8y ago
        I posted this on Twitter and of course kindly asked our followers to upvote it if they like the new version. This is something I see on Twitter every day and I really wasn’t aware that it is not allowed to do. https://twitter.com/getkirby/status/1085873516132605952?s=20 https://twitter.com/getkirby/status/1085873516132605952?s=20
      - bastianallgeier 8y ago
        You can also do a search for getkirby on Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Getkirby https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Getkirby to see that we got quite a few very positive reactions to the launch there as well.

omnimus 8y ago

Honestly i don't know what you are talking about. There are many products that launch on hacker news.

eXpl0it3r 8y ago
sctb is a moderator (kind of annoying that you have to google that) [1] and given their statement it indicates that "soliciting upvotes and booster comments" is disallowed/discouraged. Yet, that information is not part of the official HN guidelines [2] but is merely mentioned in the HN FAQ [3]. My point being, if telling your users about the HN post you created is disallowed, then why is it not part of the guidelines and merely hidden among the FAQ? Like I said, guidelines are to be read and followed, but I wouldn't expect from people to read the FAQ to find all the 'rules'. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
- omnimus 8y ago
  Oh i understand now. Well it is obvious people don't understand it works like that. From outside it seems that it is perfectly normal to share products and updates HN. It seems to happen all the time often with authors or employees in the comments. So what is prohibited is to share the direct link?
  - dang 8y ago
    Obviously submitting links to one's own work isn't prohibited. It's encouraged! What's not allowed are asking friends or teammates to upvote and/or post booster comments in the thread. Those are forms of gaming the system which the community here is not ok with. People should upvote or comment on things that they personally ran across and found intellectually interesting, not because they or a friend have something to promote.
    - bastianallgeier 8y ago
      I posted this on Twitter and of course kindly asked our followers to upvote it if they like the new version. This is something I see on Twitter every day and I really wasn’t aware that it is not allowed to do. https://twitter.com/getkirby/status/1085873516132605952?s=20 https://twitter.com/getkirby/status/1085873516132605952?s=20
    - bastianallgeier 8y ago
      You can also do a search for getkirby on Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Getkirby https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Getkirby to see that we got quite a few very positive reactions to the launch there as well.