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what do think he meant by that?

by rv-de 8y ago

fatnoah 8y ago
My interpretation was that he was expressing amazement at the number of people that came to see him. Friends, relatives, co-workers from 15+ years ago, etc. It was the topic we were discussing at that moment. Of course, it may have been something else, too.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  >>Of course, it may have been something else, too. Is it possible that the brain prepares us for a peaceful ending? Showing paradise or whatever we like as we breath one last time?
  - hliyan 8y ago
    That would be comforting, but I can think of no evolutionary purpose for such a mechanism to emerge...
    - trevyn 8y ago
      The carrot to those still living of a beautiful afterlife and the mythos surrounding that seems incredibly useful evolutionarily. That said, it could also just be an implementation quirk. There’s some interesting work out there on what exactly happens in the brain during the moments surrounding death, and it relates in an interesting way to the neural correlates of consciousness. Also related to the state of being conscious without attentional content.
    - blihp 8y ago
      In the event of a body's catastrophic system failure (i.e. serious injury / dying) the brain spikes the endorphin levels since pain no longer serves a useful purpose: the damage is done but it does serve a useful purpose to reduce the pain levels to allow us to function at a higher level than writhing on the ground in agony so that in some circumstances we might live to see another day. Think of it this way: a bear just ripped/slashed/whatever your arm off... which is more useful: 'arrgggghhh!' or for the brain to pump out endorphins so that you at least concentrate and have a chance of fighting back or running/limping away or hiding? I doubt the brain differentiates between serious injury and dying, it's just wired at a certain point to try to minimize the pain. That would seem to be a very useful evolutionary purpose.
      - cellularmitosis 8y ago
        And even if it did differentiate between serious injury and dying, considering mankind’s history of warfare, being able to continue to perform while mortally wounded is definitely beneficial to the survival of the clan.
    - schwurb 8y ago
      My take: Fear and stress are useful in some circumstances, but should not be increased in others. Populations that are not afraid of death could then be healthier, since they focus their struggles on the current pressing issues instead of worrying about a matter which will never be resolved. Personally, I am christian, and my faith is a huge source of relief when thinking about big questions and personal crisis.
yourapostasy 8y ago
This article deserves its own HN thread. Everyone should read it; it is not a problem domain amenable to a technical fix. At some point, virtually all US HN readers will personally face implementing an assisted suicide decision. My own experience is every bit as awful as depicted in the article. Be aware that many painkillers at end of life are administered by infusion pump. These control the maximum rate and frequency over time, and changes to the parameters are under a PIN code. Many such pumps also log their activity. You will have to look for a way to bypass these safeties, and not make it apparent to an external observer you extracted more medication than allotted in a given time period. I won’t spell out how to do that, because US policy and case law over assisted suicide must be changed before I may safely do so.

what do think he meant by that?

by rv-de 8y ago

what do think he meant by that?

My interpretation was that he was expressing amazement at the number of people that came to see him. Friends, relatives, co-workers from 15+ years ago, etc. It was the topic we were discussing at that moment. Of course, it may have been something else, too.

onetimemanytime 8y ago
>>Of course, it may have been something else, too. Is it possible that the brain prepares us for a peaceful ending? Showing paradise or whatever we like as we breath one last time?
- hliyan 8y ago
  That would be comforting, but I can think of no evolutionary purpose for such a mechanism to emerge...
  - trevyn 8y ago
    The carrot to those still living of a beautiful afterlife and the mythos surrounding that seems incredibly useful evolutionarily. That said, it could also just be an implementation quirk. There’s some interesting work out there on what exactly happens in the brain during the moments surrounding death, and it relates in an interesting way to the neural correlates of consciousness. Also related to the state of being conscious without attentional content.
  - blihp 8y ago
    In the event of a body's catastrophic system failure (i.e. serious injury / dying) the brain spikes the endorphin levels since pain no longer serves a useful purpose: the damage is done but it does serve a useful purpose to reduce the pain levels to allow us to function at a higher level than writhing on the ground in agony so that in some circumstances we might live to see another day. Think of it this way: a bear just ripped/slashed/whatever your arm off... which is more useful: 'arrgggghhh!' or for the brain to pump out endorphins so that you at least concentrate and have a chance of fighting back or running/limping away or hiding? I doubt the brain differentiates between serious injury and dying, it's just wired at a certain point to try to minimize the pain. That would seem to be a very useful evolutionary purpose.
    - cellularmitosis 8y ago
      And even if it did differentiate between serious injury and dying, considering mankind’s history of warfare, being able to continue to perform while mortally wounded is definitely beneficial to the survival of the clan.
  - schwurb 8y ago
    My take: Fear and stress are useful in some circumstances, but should not be increased in others. Populations that are not afraid of death could then be healthier, since they focus their struggles on the current pressing issues instead of worrying about a matter which will never be resolved. Personally, I am christian, and my faith is a huge source of relief when thinking about big questions and personal crisis.

yourapostasy 8y ago

This article deserves its own HN thread. Everyone should read it; it is not a problem domain amenable to a technical fix. At some point, virtually all US HN readers will personally face implementing an assisted suicide decision. My own experience is every bit as awful as depicted in the article. Be aware that many painkillers at end of life are administered by infusion pump. These control the maximum rate and frequency over time, and changes to the parameters are under a PIN code. Many such pumps also log their activity. You will have to look for a way to bypass these safeties, and not make it apparent to an external observer you extracted more medication than allotted in a given time period. I won’t spell out how to do that, because US policy and case law over assisted suicide must be changed before I may safely do so.