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I'm not sure if this is still the case but Google used to not even allow employees to bring their laptops to China. If a Googler had to go to China they would b

I'm not sure if this is still the case but Google used to not even allow employees to bring their laptops to China. If a Googler had to go to China they would be issued a special laptop just for that trip. I have no idea what IT had to do to that laptop after the trip to make sure it was clean. If I were going to China on business I'd have a separate cell phone just for that purpose. You can just swap sim cards if you need to keep the same number. Smartphones are so cheap nowadays you might as well have a burner for that purpose.

tivert 8y ago
> If I were going to China on business I'd have a separate cell phone just for that purpose. You can just swap sim cards if you need to keep the same number. Smartphones are so cheap nowadays you might as well have a burner for that purpose. A SIM card is an independent computer that runs a stripped-down version of Java. According to this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083221), the cell network can even upload programs to it to run.
- free652 8y ago
  Sim isn't a computer, it's just a secure data store. SIM cards predate java afaik.
  - j16sdiz 8y ago
    There are UICC SIM card -- it is a java card emulating sim card. for example: https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/131100_131199/131130/08.03.00_60/ts_131130v080300p.pdf https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/131100_131199/131130/08...
outworlder 8y ago
> I have no idea what IT had to do to that laptop after the trip to make sure it was clean. The most cost-effective solution? Put it into a blender.
inapis 8y ago
I remember reading a similar article from NYT or WaPo on how executives of major companies had to use burner devices when travelling to China. That device was disposed off on return. The article pretty much implied that it was the status quo and how everyone does things when they need to travel to China.

tivert 8y ago

> If I were going to China on business I'd have a separate cell phone just for that purpose. You can just swap sim cards if you need to keep the same number. Smartphones are so cheap nowadays you might as well have a burner for that purpose. A SIM card is an independent computer that runs a stripped-down version of Java. According to this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083221), the cell network can even upload programs to it to run.

free652 8y ago
Sim isn't a computer, it's just a secure data store. SIM cards predate java afaik.
- j16sdiz 8y ago
  There are UICC SIM card -- it is a java card emulating sim card. for example: https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/131100_131199/131130/08.03.00_60/ts_131130v080300p.pdf https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/131100_131199/131130/08...

outworlder 8y ago

> I have no idea what IT had to do to that laptop after the trip to make sure it was clean. The most cost-effective solution? Put it into a blender.

inapis 8y ago

I remember reading a similar article from NYT or WaPo on how executives of major companies had to use burner devices when travelling to China. That device was disposed off on return. The article pretty much implied that it was the status quo and how everyone does things when they need to travel to China.