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The antibiotics are needed because they're so poorly treated. The chickens wouldn't get sick if they weren't packed into battery farms. The antibiotics aren't a

The antibiotics are needed because they're so poorly treated. The chickens wouldn't get sick if they weren't packed into battery farms. The antibiotics aren't always necessary either, it's just more profitable to have the animal spend less energy fighting illness that it would otherwise have survived.

mc32 8y ago
Aside from the growth hormones which can be avoided, chickens suffer ftom contagious transmissible diseases even in exurban settings (few chickens, lots of space), so they must ne administered antibiotics to fend of diseases and collapse of the brood.
thevardanian 8y ago
In the dairy industry, for example, organic milk would mean you have to either let the cow die if they get sick, or give it antibiotics, cure it, and then send it to the slaughterhouse as you can't milk that cow anymore, worse still you give the cow antibiotics and continue to milk it thereby making the milk worse than "normal milk", because you don't want to lose money. That's why organic isn't always the most ideal.
- snowwrestler 8y ago
  Where did you get the idea that the regulation of "organic" labeling prevents treating sick animals? To my knowledge it is not true.
  - rmrm 8y ago
    It does not prevent treatment, but if treated with antibiotics, that animals milk will never there after be organic. Thems the rules.
    - itwasntandy 8y ago
      That is insane that that is the case here in the US. ( and I just checked as I could not believe it). In Europe it’s different - https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/organic/eu-policy/eu-rules-on-production/livestock_en https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/organic/eu-policy/eu-rules-... “When the animals are ill, chemically synthesised allopathic veterinary medicinal products including antibiotics may be used where necessary and under strict conditions. This is only allowed when the use of phytotherapeutic, homeopathic and other products is inappropriate.”
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- ceejayoz 8y ago
  The slaughterhouse is hardly the only option. https://www.fooddialogues.com/happens-farm-animals-raised-no-antibiotics-ever-get-sick/ https://www.fooddialogues.com/happens-farm-animals-raised-no... > On an organic farm, once that animal receives antibiotics, she is no longer considered an organic animal. Rather than rejoining her organic herd, she will join a traditional herd of cows that may have received antibiotics during their lives.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    Traditional herds exist because there remains a large non-organic market. The more popular the organic religious dietary code becomes, the least viable traditional herds are.

mc32 8y ago

Aside from the growth hormones which can be avoided, chickens suffer ftom contagious transmissible diseases even in exurban settings (few chickens, lots of space), so they must ne administered antibiotics to fend of diseases and collapse of the brood.

thevardanian 8y ago

In the dairy industry, for example, organic milk would mean you have to either let the cow die if they get sick, or give it antibiotics, cure it, and then send it to the slaughterhouse as you can't milk that cow anymore, worse still you give the cow antibiotics and continue to milk it thereby making the milk worse than "normal milk", because you don't want to lose money. That's why organic isn't always the most ideal.

snowwrestler 8y ago
Where did you get the idea that the regulation of "organic" labeling prevents treating sick animals? To my knowledge it is not true.
- rmrm 8y ago
  It does not prevent treatment, but if treated with antibiotics, that animals milk will never there after be organic. Thems the rules.
  - itwasntandy 8y ago
    That is insane that that is the case here in the US. ( and I just checked as I could not believe it). In Europe it’s different - https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/organic/eu-policy/eu-rules-on-production/livestock_en https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/organic/eu-policy/eu-rules-... “When the animals are ill, chemically synthesised allopathic veterinary medicinal products including antibiotics may be used where necessary and under strict conditions. This is only allowed when the use of phytotherapeutic, homeopathic and other products is inappropriate.”
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ceejayoz 8y ago
The slaughterhouse is hardly the only option. https://www.fooddialogues.com/happens-farm-animals-raised-no-antibiotics-ever-get-sick/ https://www.fooddialogues.com/happens-farm-animals-raised-no... > On an organic farm, once that animal receives antibiotics, she is no longer considered an organic animal. Rather than rejoining her organic herd, she will join a traditional herd of cows that may have received antibiotics during their lives.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  Traditional herds exist because there remains a large non-organic market. The more popular the organic religious dietary code becomes, the least viable traditional herds are.