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According to the article, Google is not recognizing a list as a breadcrumb trail, which is a shame, because that is the Semantically Correct way to list breadcr

by sethg 16y ago

According to the article, Google is not recognizing a list as a breadcrumb trail, which is a shame, because that is the Semantically Correct way to list breadcrumbs. I suppose the next best thing would be to have a CSS rule .breadcrumb-marker { speak: none; } but it appears, based on a little Googling, that hardly any of the aural browsers support aural CSS rules.

pragmatic 16y ago
Can you give us more info on the "Semantically Correct way to list breadcrumbs?" I'm genuinely curious. Is there an authoritative source some where (w3c, etc)?
- wlievens 16y ago
  It's more structured than text data. That's something.
- RickHull 16y ago
  It's similar to using lists for menus. Breadcrumbs are a list -- a list of places that you have visited on the way to where you are. If you buy that, then you can acknowledge such use is Semantically Correct. There may be alternatives that just as Correct or even moreso. I believe the capitalization on the term Semantically Correct is a tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment that there is no authoritative answer to this particular question.
  - ianb 16y ago
    Semantics are almost always without authority, from what I can tell. E.g., by your definition if I write "When you go to the store can you pick up milk, butter, and toilet paper" I am being semantically incorrect, as I am using this "," thing to indicate items in a list instead of ul's and li's.
    - RickHull 16y ago
      > by your definition if I write "When you go to the store can you pick up milk, butter, and toilet paper" In the context of a human conversation, the semantics of your list are apparent. In the context of HTML, the semantics are not apparent. An absence of semantics is not the same as semantically incorrect. To my understanding, something that is semantically incorrect would be more misleading than ambiguous.
- jacobolus 16y ago
  http://html5doctor.com/nav-element/ http://html5doctor.com/nav-element/

by sethg 16y ago

pragmatic 16y ago

Can you give us more info on the "Semantically Correct way to list breadcrumbs?" I'm genuinely curious. Is there an authoritative source some where (w3c, etc)?

wlievens 16y ago
It's more structured than text data. That's something.
RickHull 16y ago
It's similar to using lists for menus. Breadcrumbs are a list -- a list of places that you have visited on the way to where you are. If you buy that, then you can acknowledge such use is Semantically Correct. There may be alternatives that just as Correct or even moreso. I believe the capitalization on the term Semantically Correct is a tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment that there is no authoritative answer to this particular question.
- ianb 16y ago
  Semantics are almost always without authority, from what I can tell. E.g., by your definition if I write "When you go to the store can you pick up milk, butter, and toilet paper" I am being semantically incorrect, as I am using this "," thing to indicate items in a list instead of ul's and li's.
  - RickHull 16y ago
    > by your definition if I write "When you go to the store can you pick up milk, butter, and toilet paper" In the context of a human conversation, the semantics of your list are apparent. In the context of HTML, the semantics are not apparent. An absence of semantics is not the same as semantically incorrect. To my understanding, something that is semantically incorrect would be more misleading than ambiguous.
jacobolus 16y ago
http://html5doctor.com/nav-element/ http://html5doctor.com/nav-element/