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Hey you kids, get off my lawn! 1960s: Happiness Language: Lisp Hack-it-out Language: Assembly Bread and Butter: COBOL 1970s: Happines
by edw519 16y ago
Hey you kids, get off my lawn!
1960s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: Assembly
Bread and Butter: COBOL
1970s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: FORTRAN
Bread and Butter: BASIC
1980s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: C
Bread and Butter: QBasic
1990s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: C++
Bread and Butter: Visual Basic
2000s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: C#
Bread and Butter: PHP
2010s:
Happiness Language: Lisp
Hack-it-out Language: Python
Bread and Butter: Ruby
[EDIT: Added "s" to change significance from year to decade.]
- graywh 16y agoC# didn't appear until 2001. Perhaps you should clarify 2000-2009 decade?
- bradleyland 16y agoGive the guy a break. He's old. Memory is the first thing to go :)
- edw519 16y agoMemory is the first thing to go My wife claims that it's the second thing to go.
- steveklabnik 16y ago... but she forgets what the first thing is?
- Scaevolus 16y agoIs sex drive first?
- brlewis 16y agoThe years are only specified to 3 significant digits.
- 83457 16y agoThe first year of the 2000's decade was 2001
- InnocentB 16y agoI think you're confusing the whole "there was no year 0, so the millenium starts in 2001" business with decades. Decades start on the 0. If you were to say "the 200th decade CE", that'd be a different story :)
- golgo13 16y agoThen how come I see teams that boast 20 years of C# experience? Huh?!?!
- ced 16y agoWas there really a time period where BASIC and QBasic were bread and butter languages? I thought they were toy languages, like Logo.
- ams6110 16y agoLots of PC business apps were written in BASIC dialects in the 1980s. I supported one in the latter half of the decade that handled all the accounting, financial reporting, statistical reporting on food and labor costs, payroll, etc. for a franchise fast food restaurant. It was really quite a comprehensive and easy to use system.
- edw519 16y agoWas there really a time period where BASIC and QBasic were bread and butter languages? Yes. From the time they were introduced until today. I thought they were toy languages... Don't kid yourself. I am aware of 3 different full blown enterprise packages written in 100% BASIC. Inventory, accounting, production, order processing, ERP, CRM, etc. still running multi-billion dollar companies all over the world. Now here comes the good part...2 or them were written by 2 people and the third was written by one person. This thread started out a little in jest, but there is (and always was) a moral to the story: You can write almost anything in almost any language. The proficiency of the practitioner is way more important than the tool being used.
- ced 16y agoGood to know... but that's not the description of a "bread and butter language", at least, not by the definition in the OP. Or else, Lisp, Haskell and Prolog would all be BBLs! I wasn't around in the 60s to witness software development, but when I think of a BBL today, I think: Java. If you want to revise your history made in jest, I'd be curious to see the result.
- steveklabnik 16y agoNo way, it's the exact definition: > This is the language that you can use to keep yourself alive when life hands you lemons. This is the language that you know just in case you need to hustle yourself to provide for yourself and your family. If you're the one dude who wrote an entire package that runs a billion dollar multinational, you can pretty much charge whatever you want. It's like the ultimate job security. Any changes have to be made through you.
- CoryMathews 16y agouhh wait.. people actually use ruby at work? Perhaps 3% but calling it bread and butter is just plain untrue. Java/PHP/C# would be more fitting, those make up a huge percent of the jobs.
- jasonlotito 16y agoTo answer the unasked question: You're being downvoted because the list isn't the majority, but his personal experience. You should also review the article again, since his comment is on topic with what it discusses, and your's isn't.
- steveklabnik 16y agoAs a downvoter, for me it was 'people use $LANGUAGE at work?' These kinds of wars are not helpful.
- silentbicycle 16y agoAnd if you're going to ask those questions, you can at least ask it like this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1896245 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1896245 "Curious and inviting further discussion" tends to beat "snide and dismissive" here, hands down.
- dotandimet 16y agoI think the Hack-it-out and Bread and Butter languages are consistently transposed in this list.