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Interesting legend, tried to search for him on youtube and other places but nothing showed up. I'm not saying this man can't rap, but how can you call that bein

Interesting legend, tried to search for him on youtube and other places but nothing showed up. I'm not saying this man can't rap, but how can you call that being a legend if there isn't a single recording? Nowhere in the article is there a link or an embed to an example of his legendary rap.

rasz 8y ago
Thats how you know its all fabricated.
- mapgrep 8y ago
  Interesting that you're postulating a ~19 year conspiracy to fabricate a man across at least two LA Times articles from 2000 and this Atlantic piece in 2019. And I guess celebrity rapper KRS One, quoted in the Atlantic, would have to be in on the fabrication too. And the LA Times photographer who sold his images to the Atlantic.
  - drcode 8y ago
    Something in the music industry that is fabricated? Impossible!
    - mapgrep 8y ago
      The article and the subject of it had nothing to do with the music industry.
  - pessimizer 8y ago
    You mean celebrity rapper KRS-1, who (a long time since he was a success, and when he was trying to start a weird hip-hop religion) met Dr. Rapp, gave him "rap lessons" and planned to write a book or do a record with him (neither of which came to fruition.) This also all happened in 1999, right before the LA Times articles in 2000. This was a KRS-1 publicity project that didn't end up working. BTW, it's a straw man to pretend that this story being a fabrication means that the man himself was fabricated. I'm sure some retired white guy after having a stroke went to a rap open mic battle, got noticed by KRS-1 who thought he might be able to use him, which gave him the social capital to attend events regularly and make friends. I also don't doubt that once or twice during the period of his "rap lessons," KRS-1 trained him like a parrot to have a good minute on stage. Especially with the novelty, I'm sure people gave him a break, and there's no indication he wasn't trying hard, and people like when you try hard. Those lyrics are horrific, though. Also, shit features like this remind me that if the media wasn't 24-hour Trump, it still wouldn't be covering anything important, it would just have to find 10x more stories about waterskiing dogs and rapping grandpas.
    - joshmaker 8y ago
      It's a case study of the unusual effects of a stroke on the human brain published to the health section of a news website. Seems like a reasonable topic for a health story to me.
      - coldtea 8y ago
        Journalists make stuff up all the time in ever more major outlets...
        mapgrep 8y ago
        On what basis are you suggesting the Atlantic article is made up?
        coldtea 8y ago
        On what basis are you suggesting I suggested the Atlantic article is made up? I suggested the more general idea that journalists make up stuff frequently (even in more important and more fact-checking outlets). So my comment was in the line of "don't rule out that possibility". Also, don't you have it backwards? Isn't the burden of proof of those presenting a story?
        mapgrep 8y ago
        The story is itself a summation of evidence - quotations from interviews, links to other news articles, detailed facts found in research, photographs, etc. It's reasonable and healthy to question the summation or the evidence, of course, but if you are going to suggest a fabrication -- which is quite a serious charge -- it seems to me you should have some specific facts of your own in support of that. Or at least some specific impressions (e.g. "this particular quote rings false because..."). (To reply to your first question, it seemed you were suggesting fabrication given the context in which you said that journalists frequently make things up, as a reply to a comment defending the newsworthiness of the story topic rather than commenting on its accuracy. Maybe you intended to reply to the parent comment?)
igotsideas 8y ago
Truth. Legend is and has been used loosely in the hip hop game. I never heard of dude and been in the game since 96 (I’m old).
kcon 8y ago
> Like a true underground star, he shunned mainstream success. He did appear in a documentary about Leimert Park, not as a novelty act, but as a regular member of the crew. I believe this is the documentary the article refers to: http://www.leimertparkmovie.com http://www.leimertparkmovie.com There's a preview clip on that website that I believe shows him rapping as Dr. Flow: http://www.leimertparkmovie.com/media/06RonCarringtononThursEvenings.mov http://www.leimertparkmovie.com/media/06RonCarringtononThurs...
- sbarker 8y ago
  Legit
- thedeepself 8y ago
  The guy rapping after him busted him. He might be a legend, but it's not for his lyrical ability.
- mscasts 8y ago
  My browser can't even play that and whats me to download a .mov file. No ty.

rasz 8y ago

Thats how you know its all fabricated.

mapgrep 8y ago
Interesting that you're postulating a ~19 year conspiracy to fabricate a man across at least two LA Times articles from 2000 and this Atlantic piece in 2019. And I guess celebrity rapper KRS One, quoted in the Atlantic, would have to be in on the fabrication too. And the LA Times photographer who sold his images to the Atlantic.
- drcode 8y ago
  Something in the music industry that is fabricated? Impossible!
  - mapgrep 8y ago
    The article and the subject of it had nothing to do with the music industry.
- pessimizer 8y ago
  You mean celebrity rapper KRS-1, who (a long time since he was a success, and when he was trying to start a weird hip-hop religion) met Dr. Rapp, gave him "rap lessons" and planned to write a book or do a record with him (neither of which came to fruition.) This also all happened in 1999, right before the LA Times articles in 2000. This was a KRS-1 publicity project that didn't end up working. BTW, it's a straw man to pretend that this story being a fabrication means that the man himself was fabricated. I'm sure some retired white guy after having a stroke went to a rap open mic battle, got noticed by KRS-1 who thought he might be able to use him, which gave him the social capital to attend events regularly and make friends. I also don't doubt that once or twice during the period of his "rap lessons," KRS-1 trained him like a parrot to have a good minute on stage. Especially with the novelty, I'm sure people gave him a break, and there's no indication he wasn't trying hard, and people like when you try hard. Those lyrics are horrific, though. Also, shit features like this remind me that if the media wasn't 24-hour Trump, it still wouldn't be covering anything important, it would just have to find 10x more stories about waterskiing dogs and rapping grandpas.
  - joshmaker 8y ago
    It's a case study of the unusual effects of a stroke on the human brain published to the health section of a news website. Seems like a reasonable topic for a health story to me.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      Journalists make stuff up all the time in ever more major outlets...
      - mapgrep 8y ago
        On what basis are you suggesting the Atlantic article is made up?
        coldtea 8y ago
        On what basis are you suggesting I suggested the Atlantic article is made up? I suggested the more general idea that journalists make up stuff frequently (even in more important and more fact-checking outlets). So my comment was in the line of "don't rule out that possibility". Also, don't you have it backwards? Isn't the burden of proof of those presenting a story?
        mapgrep 8y ago
        The story is itself a summation of evidence - quotations from interviews, links to other news articles, detailed facts found in research, photographs, etc. It's reasonable and healthy to question the summation or the evidence, of course, but if you are going to suggest a fabrication -- which is quite a serious charge -- it seems to me you should have some specific facts of your own in support of that. Or at least some specific impressions (e.g. "this particular quote rings false because..."). (To reply to your first question, it seemed you were suggesting fabrication given the context in which you said that journalists frequently make things up, as a reply to a comment defending the newsworthiness of the story topic rather than commenting on its accuracy. Maybe you intended to reply to the parent comment?)

igotsideas 8y ago

Truth. Legend is and has been used loosely in the hip hop game. I never heard of dude and been in the game since 96 (I’m old).

kcon 8y ago

> Like a true underground star, he shunned mainstream success. He did appear in a documentary about Leimert Park, not as a novelty act, but as a regular member of the crew. I believe this is the documentary the article refers to: http://www.leimertparkmovie.com http://www.leimertparkmovie.com There's a preview clip on that website that I believe shows him rapping as Dr. Flow: http://www.leimertparkmovie.com/media/06RonCarringtononThursEvenings.mov http://www.leimertparkmovie.com/media/06RonCarringtononThurs...

sbarker 8y ago
Legit
thedeepself 8y ago
The guy rapping after him busted him. He might be a legend, but it's not for his lyrical ability.
mscasts 8y ago
My browser can't even play that and whats me to download a .mov file. No ty.