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Don't you have to lie at some point that a vendor is committing fraud in order to do this?
by mehrdadn 8y ago
Don't you have to lie at some point that a vendor is committing fraud in order to do this?
- criddell 8y agoIf you don't recall signing up in the first place it isn't fraud. Fraud requires intent.
- crankylinuxuser 8y agoSo you wouldn't consider having #f0f0f0 color text on a #ffffff background in 2pt font stating that it's a recurring $bignum payment each month as a fraud? Dark patterns are certainly a thing... Just how much notification and approval is needed before it's not fraud or otherwise deceitful and questionable legality?
- criddell 8y agoIf a user disputed a charge that was presented in that way, then the chargeback isn't fraudulent IMHO. The user didn't know that the charge was recurring. Services shouldn't be telling users a charge is recurring, users should be telling websites that they want to auto-renew. The default should always be a non-recurring charge and selecting anything else should require an email confirmation.
- toufiqbarhamov 8y agoAs I’ve had to say several times in this discussion, no. I am not using the chargeback festure. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18932956 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18932956