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I know I'm in the minority, but Sun/Oracle's position is hardly surprising. It's their toys, and hence you play by their rules. Asking BigCo's to pay to use Jav
by anonymous246 16y ago
I know I'm in the minority, but Sun/Oracle's position is hardly surprising. It's their toys, and hence you play by their rules. Asking BigCo's to pay to use Java on mobile devices is hardly an onerous request. I fail to see how Apache's grandstanding to force/beg Snoracle for free mobile Java benefits me, Joe Blow the lonely programmer.
Apache keeps talking about "contractual obligation", but I haven't seen anything solid about that. If they're so sure, why don't they sue to get the TCK?
Can anybody shed some light for me? Thanks.
Btw, I don't use Java, don't care for it, and hope I never have to deal with it. So my interest is purely academic.
- wmf 16y agoIt's their toys, and hence you play by their rules. For over a decade Sun has been saying that Java is some kind of open, community-driven standard. Apache is simply calling them on their own PR.
- gaius 16y agoYou're exactly right. This has zero effect on Joe Programmer working on a website or and enterprise app. It's only about people who want to embed Java in mobile devices (which they will get for free then sell for $$$). Like, hmm, Google. Can't help but feel the Apache guys are being used by Google as pawns.
- JoachimSchipper 16y agoNeither you nor Apache particularly cares about mobile, I think; but Apache cares about being open source, which is pretty much incompatible with field-of-use restrictions. "Ordinary Java programmers" may not care about mobile either, but have greatly benefited from Apache's open source projects. Thus, Apache's current conflict with Oracle is the logical extensions of their ideals, which have greatly benefited the "ordinary Java programmer".