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> But everyone shitting on Texans for owning trucks is crazy I didnt see anyone do that. I saw someone on a website complain about the price of gas to fill the

> But everyone shitting on Texans for owning trucks is crazy I didnt see anyone do that. I saw someone on a website complain about the price of gas to fill their truck, and someone else ask them if they considered driving something other than a truck. (honestly, "do you NEED the truck?" is a very good question. I drive a Yaris to construction sites. Wouldn't work for every job, but everyone else in my position drives a truck. It's an important question to consider.)

lawnchair_larry 8y ago
There is definitely some shitting going on. It’s the same argument people make when they say people buy Apple products because they are a status symbol. And honestly, NEED is a dumb question. You can ask do you NEED just about anything. No, it’s not strictly a need, and neither is anything else nerds regularly spend their money on. All of what we buy lands somewhere on a spectrum of Need-Convenient-Frivolous, and people who don’t buy something are not going to make the same assessment as people who do. A car owner saying that a truck owner doesn’t need a truck because they get by fine without one is like a bike owner saying that a car owner doesn’t need a car because they get by fine without one.
- SECProto 8y ago
  > It’s the same argument people make when they say people buy Apple products because they are a status symbol. A more accurate comparison would be: Apple Owner A complains about the price of apple products, Person B comes along and asks if said person has considered if they NEED an apple product. Totally reasonable. It's the initial complaint (about the cost!!!) that makes the question acceptable. Many people don't TRULY consider needs (as you rightly point out, it's a spectrum from need to frivolous). If you consider it and decide you do actually need the truck (or the apple product, or whatever) then that's totally fine. (well, tragedy of the commons global warming stuff excepted, but that's a society-level problem).
- EADGBE 8y ago
  Shitting-on always happens here when pickups are brought up. Silicon Valley - I mean HN - won't know what to do with itself when most trucks go electric.
  - SECProto 8y ago
    Shitting on pickups in urban environments is the same as shitting on sedans in a rural environment - it isn't the tool best fitted for the job, generally. HN may shit on trucks more as a result of who is posting here, but it isn't an intrinsic wrong. trucks going electric will be great for the same reason every vehicle going electric is great - it reduces dependence on fossil fuels, it reduces carbon dioxide emissions, it makes the outlook for the future less of a defeating thing!
    - EADGBE 8y ago
      I'm certainly looking forward to the electrification of vehicles. I hope it isn't a cash grab for utility companies though, and I really hope that we move more towards non-toxic energy sources or it'll really be a moot movement. (Also, we're only a small part of the world, it needs to bleed into every other market, too)

lawnchair_larry 8y ago

There is definitely some shitting going on. It’s the same argument people make when they say people buy Apple products because they are a status symbol. And honestly, NEED is a dumb question. You can ask do you NEED just about anything. No, it’s not strictly a need, and neither is anything else nerds regularly spend their money on. All of what we buy lands somewhere on a spectrum of Need-Convenient-Frivolous, and people who don’t buy something are not going to make the same assessment as people who do. A car owner saying that a truck owner doesn’t need a truck because they get by fine without one is like a bike owner saying that a car owner doesn’t need a car because they get by fine without one.

SECProto 8y ago
> It’s the same argument people make when they say people buy Apple products because they are a status symbol. A more accurate comparison would be: Apple Owner A complains about the price of apple products, Person B comes along and asks if said person has considered if they NEED an apple product. Totally reasonable. It's the initial complaint (about the cost!!!) that makes the question acceptable. Many people don't TRULY consider needs (as you rightly point out, it's a spectrum from need to frivolous). If you consider it and decide you do actually need the truck (or the apple product, or whatever) then that's totally fine. (well, tragedy of the commons global warming stuff excepted, but that's a society-level problem).
EADGBE 8y ago
Shitting-on always happens here when pickups are brought up. Silicon Valley - I mean HN - won't know what to do with itself when most trucks go electric.
- SECProto 8y ago
  Shitting on pickups in urban environments is the same as shitting on sedans in a rural environment - it isn't the tool best fitted for the job, generally. HN may shit on trucks more as a result of who is posting here, but it isn't an intrinsic wrong. trucks going electric will be great for the same reason every vehicle going electric is great - it reduces dependence on fossil fuels, it reduces carbon dioxide emissions, it makes the outlook for the future less of a defeating thing!
  - EADGBE 8y ago
    I'm certainly looking forward to the electrification of vehicles. I hope it isn't a cash grab for utility companies though, and I really hope that we move more towards non-toxic energy sources or it'll really be a moot movement. (Also, we're only a small part of the world, it needs to bleed into every other market, too)