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I honestly think that this will help make electric vehicles more mainstream. People here in the US love their F-150's, and if Ford could make die hard truck fan

by jdhn 8y ago

I honestly think that this will help make electric vehicles more mainstream. People here in the US love their F-150's, and if Ford could make die hard truck fans switch from a V8 to a TTV6, then they're the ones that can convince the same fans consider buying a hybrid or electric F-150.

msla 8y ago
And I think the cultural problems will scuttle the whole thing. https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-blocking-tesla-superc-1831322063 https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-block... > Bro-Truck Owners Are Deliberately Blocking Tesla Supercharger Spots > I generally like people, which may be why I never fail to be surprised when I encounter people being truly unrepentant dickheads for no good reason whatsoever. That’s what seems to have been going down at a Tesla Supercharger in Hickory, North Carolina, where a Tesla owner was attempting to charge her car, only to find the Supercharger spots blocked by at least three pickup trucks, with the trucks owners chanting “Fuck Tesla.” What the hell? The problem is that electric cars are associated with "Believing In Global Warming" which is associated with Blue Tribe. Red Tribe will fight this.
- dharmab 8y ago
  Keep in mid the F-Series are sold as fleet vehicles too. Electric utility vehicles have a place.
- jdhn 8y ago
  Yeah, I read that article when it came out, and it seems that these guys were trolling hard. However, I'm willing to bet that once a truck fan (not the ones in your article) drive an electric pickup truck and experience all the low end torque that it puts out, they'll quickly become converts.
  - cure 8y ago
    Yeah. If you actually want to pull something heavy - or just want to accelerate fast - that flat torque curve you get from an electric motor will leave ICE trucks in the dust.
    - kazinator 8y ago
      Electric motors should deliver more torque at lower RPMs, not simply flat torque, because power is torque x angular velocity. If we hold power constant, lower angular velocity means more torque.
    - geggam 8y ago
      Agreed. However your battery will die very quickly and leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. I had to take a couple home who were on the side of the mountain coming home from half moon bay to the pennisula. The gauge told them they had 40 miles left on the battery but that mountain climb killed it. If they had a gas car I could have poured them a bit from a can. As it was they had to get a tow and I drove the extra folks home
      - greglindahl 8y ago
        Or, you could use the nav system of your car to get an accurate estimate of battery usage. I've driven that exact route repeatedly, the nav estimate was spot on.
        geggam 8y ago
        Point being there is no quick fix to running out of juice.
      - HeadsUpHigh 8y ago
        Yea that could happen but I would also expect a pickup truck to have significantly more juice in it than a sedan. This might also be one of the selling points for Ford( "we have the longest range"). Range anxiety is mostly a solved problem at least for Teslas but it still looms in some peoples' heads.
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- samsolomon 8y ago
  Many people bought Teslas because they were cool, not because they were helping the environment. Tesla gave consumers what they wanted AND it happened to be better for the environment. If Ford can deliver an electric F-Series, it will have the same effect on truck owners.
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- jimjimjim 8y ago
  The Rolling Coal troglodytes are an example of this mentality.
ip26 8y ago
The aluminum chassis, too. Lot of tough truck guys were sure that was a terrible idea.
closeparen 8y ago
Light and reliable electric trucks + solar seem to have a decent shot at some kind of cultural resonance. 21st century rugged individualism.
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by jdhn 8y ago

msla 8y ago

And I think the cultural problems will scuttle the whole thing. https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-blocking-tesla-superc-1831322063 https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-block... > Bro-Truck Owners Are Deliberately Blocking Tesla Supercharger Spots > I generally like people, which may be why I never fail to be surprised when I encounter people being truly unrepentant dickheads for no good reason whatsoever. That’s what seems to have been going down at a Tesla Supercharger in Hickory, North Carolina, where a Tesla owner was attempting to charge her car, only to find the Supercharger spots blocked by at least three pickup trucks, with the trucks owners chanting “Fuck Tesla.” What the hell? The problem is that electric cars are associated with "Believing In Global Warming" which is associated with Blue Tribe. Red Tribe will fight this.

dharmab 8y ago
Keep in mid the F-Series are sold as fleet vehicles too. Electric utility vehicles have a place.
jdhn 8y ago
Yeah, I read that article when it came out, and it seems that these guys were trolling hard. However, I'm willing to bet that once a truck fan (not the ones in your article) drive an electric pickup truck and experience all the low end torque that it puts out, they'll quickly become converts.
- cure 8y ago
  Yeah. If you actually want to pull something heavy - or just want to accelerate fast - that flat torque curve you get from an electric motor will leave ICE trucks in the dust.
  - kazinator 8y ago
    Electric motors should deliver more torque at lower RPMs, not simply flat torque, because power is torque x angular velocity. If we hold power constant, lower angular velocity means more torque.
  - geggam 8y ago
    Agreed. However your battery will die very quickly and leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. I had to take a couple home who were on the side of the mountain coming home from half moon bay to the pennisula. The gauge told them they had 40 miles left on the battery but that mountain climb killed it. If they had a gas car I could have poured them a bit from a can. As it was they had to get a tow and I drove the extra folks home
    - greglindahl 8y ago
      Or, you could use the nav system of your car to get an accurate estimate of battery usage. I've driven that exact route repeatedly, the nav estimate was spot on.
      - geggam 8y ago
        Point being there is no quick fix to running out of juice.
    - HeadsUpHigh 8y ago
      Yea that could happen but I would also expect a pickup truck to have significantly more juice in it than a sedan. This might also be one of the selling points for Ford( "we have the longest range"). Range anxiety is mostly a solved problem at least for Teslas but it still looms in some peoples' heads.
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samsolomon 8y ago
Many people bought Teslas because they were cool, not because they were helping the environment. Tesla gave consumers what they wanted AND it happened to be better for the environment. If Ford can deliver an electric F-Series, it will have the same effect on truck owners.
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jimjimjim 8y ago
The Rolling Coal troglodytes are an example of this mentality.

ip26 8y ago

The aluminum chassis, too. Lot of tough truck guys were sure that was a terrible idea.

closeparen 8y ago

Light and reliable electric trucks + solar seem to have a decent shot at some kind of cultural resonance. 21st century rugged individualism.

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