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Mass migration and civil war.

ThomPete 8y ago
We have that throughout history and even today and yet we are still around. So again if that is what we are talking about I really don't see what exactly I should be so worried about.
- dwaltrip 8y ago
  You don't think we should try to avoid situations that will cause mass displacement and war, potentially on an unprecedented scale?
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    Yes and the best way to do that is to make poor nations richer which requires growth which will require more energy and thus more emission of CO2.
mdpopescu 8y ago
Yeah, we've only been dealing with those for 10,000 years. /s
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  The planet is much more crowded now and every piece of land is claimed by someone as owner. A mass migration won't be pretty. Just look at the Syria refugees and scale that up by lot.
- whatshisface 8y ago
  Not very well we haven't.
- whyaduck 8y ago
  And it causes misery and costs lives. Personally, I don't find "it won't be a mass extinction event" to be a convincing argument to ignore climate change.
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    Who is talking about ignoring it?
    - flukus 8y ago
      You seem to think the solution is to make things worse: > Yes and the best way to do that is to make poor nations richer which requires growth which will require more energy and thus more emission of CO2 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18926331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18926331) That's even worse than ignoring it.
      - ThomPete 8y ago
        No my solution is to look at both the positives and the negatives and since you or anyone else haven't been able to show a single piece of scientifically demonstrated evidence that the consequences are going to be impossible for us to deal with then I choose to prioritize poor nations chance to grow more wealth over unproven, unscientific and hysterical speculation.
    - whyaduck 8y ago
      Alright, I'll probably get warned or downvoted for this, but here it goes... Stop sea-lioning.
      - ThomPete 8y ago
        What about you start actually commenting on things I have said rather than just making things up?

We have that throughout history and even today and yet we are still around. So again if that is what we are talking about I really don't see what exactly I should be so worried about.

dwaltrip 8y ago
You don't think we should try to avoid situations that will cause mass displacement and war, potentially on an unprecedented scale?
- ThomPete 8y ago
  Yes and the best way to do that is to make poor nations richer which requires growth which will require more energy and thus more emission of CO2.

mdpopescu 8y ago

Yeah, we've only been dealing with those for 10,000 years. /s

maxxxxx 8y ago
The planet is much more crowded now and every piece of land is claimed by someone as owner. A mass migration won't be pretty. Just look at the Syria refugees and scale that up by lot.
whatshisface 8y ago
Not very well we haven't.
whyaduck 8y ago
And it causes misery and costs lives. Personally, I don't find "it won't be a mass extinction event" to be a convincing argument to ignore climate change.
- ThomPete 8y ago
  Who is talking about ignoring it?
  - flukus 8y ago
    You seem to think the solution is to make things worse: > Yes and the best way to do that is to make poor nations richer which requires growth which will require more energy and thus more emission of CO2 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18926331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18926331) That's even worse than ignoring it.
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      No my solution is to look at both the positives and the negatives and since you or anyone else haven't been able to show a single piece of scientifically demonstrated evidence that the consequences are going to be impossible for us to deal with then I choose to prioritize poor nations chance to grow more wealth over unproven, unscientific and hysterical speculation.
  - whyaduck 8y ago
    Alright, I'll probably get warned or downvoted for this, but here it goes... Stop sea-lioning.
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      What about you start actually commenting on things I have said rather than just making things up?