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I will also ask you to provide an example of a scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we don't know how to deal with. Climate change is a fa

I will also ask you to provide an example of a scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we don't know how to deal with. Climate change is a fact of life and we have always had to deal with it. Nature doesn't give us an environment we make dangerous, nature gives us a dangerous environment we then make safe. I am personally more concerned about a lot of other things before climate change even enters my list.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
> I will also ask you to provide an example of a scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we don't know how to deal with. You'll have to define "deal with". How many billions dead is a success?
titzer 8y ago
It's gonna be a bitch not getting anything to eat because Earth won't grow our crops anymore because we done fucked up all of its life support systems and it's just too damn hot outside.
- explainplease 8y ago
  More CO2 = higher crop yields. Higher temperature = more arable land. Your beliefs are not scientifically valid.
  - titzer 8y ago
    I would suggest you consider that issue may be more complicated than a single variable. While it make for great back and forth on an HN thread and wonderful, cathartic gotcha moments, (perhaps I also feel this urge), it really is a complicated issue, and pretty much all signs point to climate change as being a very disruptive, likely cataclysmic change to the entire planet. Ecosystems don't respond to rapid, catastrophic changes well. Loss of biodiversity--losing a link in the food chain--tends produce shockwaves through the entire system, which can lead to collapse. E.g. https://phys.org/news/2015-06-tide-pools-rapid-die-off-sea.html https://phys.org/news/2015-06-tide-pools-rapid-die-off-sea.h...
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      Yes it's more complicated than a single variable something you too should keep in mind.
    - explainplease 8y ago
      So many adjectives, so few facts.
  - chimprich 8y ago
    Higher temperatures also lead to desertification, smaller land area through sea level rise, and more extreme weather events. It's a complicated situation to predict, and it would be wrong to say it comes with no opportunities, but it looks like averting the situation, even partially, is going to be far less painful than dealing with the effects.
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      That certainly depends on what you are going to do to prevent it.
- explainplease 8y ago
  You actually think you are contributing to the demise of the entire human race. You are so lost in apocalyptic despair that you are not thinking rationally. So much technology, the pace of development accelerating exponentially, so much having happened in just the last 100 years compared to the past thousands of human history, and all you can see is death and destruction looming. The real problems facing humanity are the ones that have always been, and always will be, with us. Get a grip. Go outside, take a deep breath of some fresh air, and try to enjoy the few years you have on this beautiful planet. Try to make a difference where you are, when you are. The rest isn't up to you or anyone else.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago

> I will also ask you to provide an example of a scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we don't know how to deal with. You'll have to define "deal with". How many billions dead is a success?

titzer 8y ago

It's gonna be a bitch not getting anything to eat because Earth won't grow our crops anymore because we done fucked up all of its life support systems and it's just too damn hot outside.

explainplease 8y ago
More CO2 = higher crop yields. Higher temperature = more arable land. Your beliefs are not scientifically valid.
- titzer 8y ago
  I would suggest you consider that issue may be more complicated than a single variable. While it make for great back and forth on an HN thread and wonderful, cathartic gotcha moments, (perhaps I also feel this urge), it really is a complicated issue, and pretty much all signs point to climate change as being a very disruptive, likely cataclysmic change to the entire planet. Ecosystems don't respond to rapid, catastrophic changes well. Loss of biodiversity--losing a link in the food chain--tends produce shockwaves through the entire system, which can lead to collapse. E.g. https://phys.org/news/2015-06-tide-pools-rapid-die-off-sea.html https://phys.org/news/2015-06-tide-pools-rapid-die-off-sea.h...
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    Yes it's more complicated than a single variable something you too should keep in mind.
  - explainplease 8y ago
    So many adjectives, so few facts.
- chimprich 8y ago
  Higher temperatures also lead to desertification, smaller land area through sea level rise, and more extreme weather events. It's a complicated situation to predict, and it would be wrong to say it comes with no opportunities, but it looks like averting the situation, even partially, is going to be far less painful than dealing with the effects.
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    That certainly depends on what you are going to do to prevent it.
explainplease 8y ago
You actually think you are contributing to the demise of the entire human race. You are so lost in apocalyptic despair that you are not thinking rationally. So much technology, the pace of development accelerating exponentially, so much having happened in just the last 100 years compared to the past thousands of human history, and all you can see is death and destruction looming. The real problems facing humanity are the ones that have always been, and always will be, with us. Get a grip. Go outside, take a deep breath of some fresh air, and try to enjoy the few years you have on this beautiful planet. Try to make a difference where you are, when you are. The rest isn't up to you or anyone else.