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If you use PureVPN, you're a sucker, plain and simple. You failed to do basic research into your VPN provider, or failed to consult with someone who actually kn

If you use PureVPN, you're a sucker, plain and simple. You failed to do basic research into your VPN provider, or failed to consult with someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Let's do a very quick experiment where we evaluate a few popular VPN services at a glance, and critique them using non-technical insights which can generally be applied to any business trying to sell you a product. In other words, there's no excuse for not being able to develop these insights just because you aren't a "tech person". Googling PureVPN provides the following summary: "The best VPN service in 2018. PureVPN leads the industry with its massive network of more than 2000 encrypted VPN servers, around 300000 anonymous IPs..." PureVPN only has a 150 character limit to describe their business, and they use it for: 1) Overzealous claims about being "the best" and the "industry leader" 2) Throwing out large numbers which they hope the user will correlate to excellence as a VPN service. The clueless user will think, "the more the better, right?" Nord VPN's summary: "Protect your privacy online and access media content with no regional restrictions. Strong encryption and no-log policy with 5000+ servers in 60+ countries..." 1) No regional restrictions? That's a given for any decent VPN. Useless noise meant to paint the product in a better light. 2) They claim strong encryption, but again, that's a GIVEN for any decent service. More deception. 3) They immediately try to sucker people in with the "no logs" bullshit 4) More stupid large numbers. See a trend? Now look at Mullvad VPN's summary: "Mullvad is a VPN service that helps keep your online activity, identity, and location private. Only €5/month - We accept Bitcoin, cash, bank wire, credit card..." Wow! No claims about being the best, no claims about anything. It "helps" keep your data private. No claims about 100% privacy. Then they list the price and payment methods. Informative and non-deceptive.

kkhafra 8y ago
> "Protect your privacy online and access media content with no regional restrictions. Strong encryption and no-log policy with 5000+ servers in 60+ countries..." I don't see how this is deceptive whatsoever? It states known facts about the VPN while also giving a basic outline on their policies. I'm inclined to believe that Nord doesn't keep logs (as of Nov. 1 of 2018) due to their audit by an external company. The report is available: https://ucp.nordvpn.com/audit-report/ https://ucp.nordvpn.com/audit-report/ I'm not saying that Nord is 100% safe, as others mentioned in this thread, it is completely possible that any "no-logs" VPN provider may store logs somewhere else or an organization may store their data. It allows a provider to claim they keep no logs, which also technically being truthful. I'm intrigued by Nord's stance to this (as their audit has no mention of it at a quick glance) and I will email their support about this. Not only that, regional restrictions may apply to services such as Netflix, which have been battling VPNs for years now. Most VPN providers don't work with many of these services, and due to the fact Nord does, I'd claim that as a good advertising standpoint. Never tried "Mullvad", but I doubt they can bypass restrictions of these same sites. Now onto Mullvad... The reason they can't claim to be the best, in any field for that matter, is because they aren't. Isn't keeping your data private "a GIVEN for any decent service" (to quote your own words...)? I'm also worried about that price, are the potential legal fees Mullvad may pay to keep your privacy safe worth the 5 pounds a month you pay? Same with any VPN for that matter - the cheaper it is, the less likely it is safe.
- kakarot 8y ago
  Regarding #2, I flubbed and meant to say "More noise", not "More deception". I didn't realize my mistake till later. And I was briefly dissecting the Google summaries of these services, but I have read much, much more than that for every major VPN provider before settling with Mullvad. I recommend Mullvad and if you took more than a cursory glance at their blog and documentation then you would get an understanding of what kind of service they want to be. They strive for top-notch security and service. Nord also seems like a decent choice, even if they are not for me. For me, a company's ethos is extremely important and comes first. However, Nord still has the standard scummy sales tactics employed by so many companies, as you can see from their summary.

kkhafra 8y ago

> "Protect your privacy online and access media content with no regional restrictions. Strong encryption and no-log policy with 5000+ servers in 60+ countries..." I don't see how this is deceptive whatsoever? It states known facts about the VPN while also giving a basic outline on their policies. I'm inclined to believe that Nord doesn't keep logs (as of Nov. 1 of 2018) due to their audit by an external company. The report is available: https://ucp.nordvpn.com/audit-report/ https://ucp.nordvpn.com/audit-report/ I'm not saying that Nord is 100% safe, as others mentioned in this thread, it is completely possible that any "no-logs" VPN provider may store logs somewhere else or an organization may store their data. It allows a provider to claim they keep no logs, which also technically being truthful. I'm intrigued by Nord's stance to this (as their audit has no mention of it at a quick glance) and I will email their support about this. Not only that, regional restrictions may apply to services such as Netflix, which have been battling VPNs for years now. Most VPN providers don't work with many of these services, and due to the fact Nord does, I'd claim that as a good advertising standpoint. Never tried "Mullvad", but I doubt they can bypass restrictions of these same sites. Now onto Mullvad... The reason they can't claim to be the best, in any field for that matter, is because they aren't. Isn't keeping your data private "a GIVEN for any decent service" (to quote your own words...)? I'm also worried about that price, are the potential legal fees Mullvad may pay to keep your privacy safe worth the 5 pounds a month you pay? Same with any VPN for that matter - the cheaper it is, the less likely it is safe.

kakarot 8y ago
Regarding #2, I flubbed and meant to say "More noise", not "More deception". I didn't realize my mistake till later. And I was briefly dissecting the Google summaries of these services, but I have read much, much more than that for every major VPN provider before settling with Mullvad. I recommend Mullvad and if you took more than a cursory glance at their blog and documentation then you would get an understanding of what kind of service they want to be. They strive for top-notch security and service. Nord also seems like a decent choice, even if they are not for me. For me, a company's ethos is extremely important and comes first. However, Nord still has the standard scummy sales tactics employed by so many companies, as you can see from their summary.