4 ms·

Ghost in the shell is a direct exploration into the ramifications of sentiment after nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan. This is a really political event and i

Ghost in the shell is a direct exploration into the ramifications of sentiment after nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan. This is a really political event and it explores the ramifications of this political event. It's steeped in politics, and even explores the gender identity of being an android. Also, for what I've experienced in the west, I am not seeing what you are seeing- the " telling me which candidate I need to vote for or else I'll be cast into the outer social darkness where there is much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and deplatforming". I'm unsure where Star Wars has done this, or, say, that weird female-cast remake of Ghostbusters? These were fairly mainstream works from what I understand, but they weren't about voting or who to vote for. Their politics, from what I understand, was entirely about who was casted and the choices in casting them, not about candidates. I'm really confused now. I don't understand where you're discerning politics from philosophy. An anime about exploring the ramifications of the nuclear bomb and the human identity including gender of androids is philosophical, but the dominant western media is about candidate voting- of which I don't know any mainstream western media directly saying who to vote for?

jerf 8y ago
I take it you are mainstream politically for silicon valley? You won't see the colored tint of the politics of the media culture if you're already wearing spectacles of the same tint. New Ghostbusters absolutely has opinions about what you should believe and who you should vote for. Hollywood is drenched in it nowadays. It can't hardly produce anything without it. Recent Star Wars was full of it too, yes. I'm not sure why you think Ghost in the Shell was about the nuclear bombing. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone take that angle on it before, and I've read some stuff about it. It's primarily about technology, most of which doesn't exist yet. And if it differs, it is that it doesn't necessarly take a stand and tell you what to believe, like Hollywood does so much today. I guess that's my primary line-draw on philosophy vs. politics. I see so much less "cartoonish buffoon with obvious badthink vs. righteous, all-virtue rightthinker" in anime. If you don't believe me, you can easily put it to the test, if you're on social media. Just try posting that you'd like to see some bit of media that reaches across the aisle and treats a Trump voter with some degree of respect, in the interests of human brotherhood. Warning: You may lose friends if you do this. I've posted this challenge three or four times to people before now, and nobody's reported trying it, because on some level... you know.
- SolaceQuantum 8y ago
  I take it you are mainstream politically for silicon valley? I'm not, actually. I don't live in silicon valley, and have no idea what the mainstream of silicon valley is in terms of politics. Also, I think you may be approaching this with a lot more assumptions than is reasonable to be made here. You've made assumptions about me and my position, and instead of diverting to social media I would like to bring it back to the inherent politicality of western media and how it's distinctly more overt and telling people how to vote?

jerf 8y ago

I take it you are mainstream politically for silicon valley? You won't see the colored tint of the politics of the media culture if you're already wearing spectacles of the same tint. New Ghostbusters absolutely has opinions about what you should believe and who you should vote for. Hollywood is drenched in it nowadays. It can't hardly produce anything without it. Recent Star Wars was full of it too, yes. I'm not sure why you think Ghost in the Shell was about the nuclear bombing. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone take that angle on it before, and I've read some stuff about it. It's primarily about technology, most of which doesn't exist yet. And if it differs, it is that it doesn't necessarly take a stand and tell you what to believe, like Hollywood does so much today. I guess that's my primary line-draw on philosophy vs. politics. I see so much less "cartoonish buffoon with obvious badthink vs. righteous, all-virtue rightthinker" in anime. If you don't believe me, you can easily put it to the test, if you're on social media. Just try posting that you'd like to see some bit of media that reaches across the aisle and treats a Trump voter with some degree of respect, in the interests of human brotherhood. Warning: You may lose friends if you do this. I've posted this challenge three or four times to people before now, and nobody's reported trying it, because on some level... you know.

SolaceQuantum 8y ago
I take it you are mainstream politically for silicon valley? I'm not, actually. I don't live in silicon valley, and have no idea what the mainstream of silicon valley is in terms of politics. Also, I think you may be approaching this with a lot more assumptions than is reasonable to be made here. You've made assumptions about me and my position, and instead of diverting to social media I would like to bring it back to the inherent politicality of western media and how it's distinctly more overt and telling people how to vote?