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Has been (and is) my ISP for more than 15 years. It's so sad to see it go, as decided by KPN. Apparently XS4ALL workers new about this decision just 30 minutes

Has been (and is) my ISP for more than 15 years. It's so sad to see it go, as decided by KPN. Apparently XS4ALL workers new about this decision just 30 minutes before the public announcement. It's also the ISP I definitely have the best support experience with, always happy to help, even with personal projects. It's tragic to see a brand like KPN (which is generally considered quite bad) kill XS4ALL which is generally seen as a quality provider. KPN says nothing will change for existing customers, but I don't believe in that. Sadly the alternatives are very limited. In the area I currently live in I seem to have two other choices, one of which is KPN. Neither come close to what XS4ALL _was_. These alternatives don't properly support IPv6, they force you to use some obscure and locked down router, etcetera. I hope some hardcore XS4ALL workers will fork the company to set up a new ISP to provide similar activities.

Fnoord 8y ago
Ziggo (Liberty Global) gives a good bang for the buck if you look at the speed you get versus what you pay for. They give either native IPv4 or native IPv6, not dual stack. They're a big multinational with a rather terrible helpdesk (compared to Xs4all; not compared to KPN I guess). I mean you could even phone Xs4all's helpdesk and ask them basically any technical question you had. Ziggo don't give Usenet access anymore. They don't give shell access. However you can put their modem in bridge mode, and you don't have to play around with VLANs because DVB-C gives you the TV signal.