>I think Toyota and BMW are nuts to think this model will draw any 718 Cayman buyers. Who is seriously going to pass on the Porsche PDK (or manual transmission)

>I think Toyota and BMW are nuts to think this model will draw any 718 Cayman buyers. Who is seriously going to pass on the Porsche PDK (or manual transmission) and mid-rear engine for a front engine and torque converter? So I've driven many versions of the ZF8, honestly even though it's not Porsche PDK, it's still very capable and I prefer the newer ones to the DCT in my F80 M3. Hell, even the new M5 uses the ZF8 transmission now and dumped the DCT. sheepishly raises hand. I mean, it's quicker than a base model 718 while being much better equipped and is about half the price of a equally equipped 718S. If money is no objection whatsoever then sure, 718 all the way, but unfortunately that's not the case for most people, even sports car buyers.