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Folks are falling for well confirmed lies. When people fall for blatant, untrue propaganda, they are dupes. Democratically empowered dupes, but dupes none the

Folks are falling for well confirmed lies. When people fall for blatant, untrue propaganda, they are dupes. Democratically empowered dupes, but dupes none the less.

kodablah 8y ago
> Folks are falling for well confirmed lies. Sure, probably on both sides. But to assume that everyone on one side of an issue, or even most, are dupes is a very dangerous assumption. Not every election outcome has to be rationalized, but in the attempt to do so people build excuses out of easy-to-find-when-digging election issues prevalent in all elections. Then they blindly say that must be the reason or that it only affects one side or that voters are dupes or whatever makes them feel better instead of considering that there is reasonable disagreement. It happens with most election results these days that don't favor the boisterous.
- midasz 8y ago
  > probably on both sides Brexiteers keep saying the Remain camp put out lies, but whenever pressed for facts they can't really come up with anything substantial. In contrast to the lies the Leave camp has spouted, which are documented. The pioneers of the Leave camp actually got the hell out of politics when they succeeded. How does that inspire confidence.. So, please, show me how the Remain camp has lied in order to influence the referendum.
  - kodablah 8y ago
    I said "probably" because I don't know (I do see plenty of comments suggestion fear mongering about things that wre supposed to have happened by now like recessions, loss of food, loss of medicine, etc). My comment is about foolishly getting hung up on the rhetoric (and assuming voters are too stupid to see through it) instead of the real issues both sides have. Sadly, the response was back to getting hung up on the rhetoric more or less proving my point.
    - snapdangle 8y ago
      To me it seems pretty clear that you said "probably" out of knee-jerk both-siderism.
      - dTal 8y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGArqoF0TpQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGArqoF0TpQ [SMBC Theater, "Both Sides"]

Folks are falling for well confirmed lies. When people fall for blatant, untrue propaganda, they are dupes. Democratically empowered dupes, but dupes none the less.

kodablah 8y ago

> Folks are falling for well confirmed lies. Sure, probably on both sides. But to assume that everyone on one side of an issue, or even most, are dupes is a very dangerous assumption. Not every election outcome has to be rationalized, but in the attempt to do so people build excuses out of easy-to-find-when-digging election issues prevalent in all elections. Then they blindly say that must be the reason or that it only affects one side or that voters are dupes or whatever makes them feel better instead of considering that there is reasonable disagreement. It happens with most election results these days that don't favor the boisterous.

midasz 8y ago
> probably on both sides Brexiteers keep saying the Remain camp put out lies, but whenever pressed for facts they can't really come up with anything substantial. In contrast to the lies the Leave camp has spouted, which are documented. The pioneers of the Leave camp actually got the hell out of politics when they succeeded. How does that inspire confidence.. So, please, show me how the Remain camp has lied in order to influence the referendum.
- kodablah 8y ago
  I said "probably" because I don't know (I do see plenty of comments suggestion fear mongering about things that wre supposed to have happened by now like recessions, loss of food, loss of medicine, etc). My comment is about foolishly getting hung up on the rhetoric (and assuming voters are too stupid to see through it) instead of the real issues both sides have. Sadly, the response was back to getting hung up on the rhetoric more or less proving my point.
  - snapdangle 8y ago
    To me it seems pretty clear that you said "probably" out of knee-jerk both-siderism.
    - dTal 8y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGArqoF0TpQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGArqoF0TpQ [SMBC Theater, "Both Sides"]