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I've been a huge Toyota fan since the late 80s. I've owned multiple 1970s Corollas, 80s and 90s Celicas, Hiluxes, the list goes on. All the way up to mid 2000s.

I've been a huge Toyota fan since the late 80s. I've owned multiple 1970s Corollas, 80s and 90s Celicas, Hiluxes, the list goes on. All the way up to mid 2000s. This Supra is an abomination. They go on about how it's "for the fans", which just rubs it in even worse. If they'd just made a bigger 86 with a turbo V6 I would've put money down the minute they took preorders. Instead I'm just upset that they absolutely destroyed the name of one of the most iconic cars of my generation by outsourcing it to BMW and whitelabeling a boring overpriced midlife crisis car. Every single Toyota car nut I know is insulted, and you just have to look at ANY car forum to see how badly this entire thing is being received. For most people, a car is the second biggest possession in their life after a house. For many it's THE biggest possession. It's not unfair for people to be attached to brands they've grown up with, and cars they've worked their asses off and poured literally blood sweat and tears into. Look how upset people are over a missing headphone jack. Now imagine if the iPhone 11 was a rebadged Android phone made entirely by Samsung with an Apple sticker on the back, not even running iOS. Toyota really screwed this one.

Cookingboy 8y ago
>Every single Toyota car nut I know is insulted, and you just have to look at ANY car forum to see how badly this entire thing is being received. I don't know, it's fairly well received on Reddit, and I personally like it even though I'm a big fan of the A80 Supra. Let's be honest, enthusiasts are never happy about anything, they all want something that's 500hp that also weights 2000lbs and comes straight from the factory with the price of a 3 years old used Miata. Is this the same type of car as the A80 Supra? Of course not, but all signs pointing toward it being a quite promising sports car, and all the early reviews are quite positives as well. The kind of people who make the loudest noise on the forums aren't the type who would be putting money down buying a new $80k GT-R caliber Supra anyway. For $50k starting price, you get a good looking 2 seater that's relatively light, agile, 4.1s 0-60 and very nicely equipped with the latest BMW cabin tech and Toyota styling, I think this thing will sell like hotcakes.
- rasz 8y ago
  And BMW Z4 is a car for those people. Looking at the sale numbers says it all, people you cite as enthusiastic about it dont buy cars.
  - Cookingboy 8y ago
    What sales number? This car isn't even on sale yet. The Z4 is a convertible that costs $15k more. The people who complain the loudest about this car are the ones who don't buy new sports cars.

Cookingboy 8y ago

>Every single Toyota car nut I know is insulted, and you just have to look at ANY car forum to see how badly this entire thing is being received. I don't know, it's fairly well received on Reddit, and I personally like it even though I'm a big fan of the A80 Supra. Let's be honest, enthusiasts are never happy about anything, they all want something that's 500hp that also weights 2000lbs and comes straight from the factory with the price of a 3 years old used Miata. Is this the same type of car as the A80 Supra? Of course not, but all signs pointing toward it being a quite promising sports car, and all the early reviews are quite positives as well. The kind of people who make the loudest noise on the forums aren't the type who would be putting money down buying a new $80k GT-R caliber Supra anyway. For $50k starting price, you get a good looking 2 seater that's relatively light, agile, 4.1s 0-60 and very nicely equipped with the latest BMW cabin tech and Toyota styling, I think this thing will sell like hotcakes.

rasz 8y ago
And BMW Z4 is a car for those people. Looking at the sale numbers says it all, people you cite as enthusiastic about it dont buy cars.
- Cookingboy 8y ago
  What sales number? This car isn't even on sale yet. The Z4 is a convertible that costs $15k more. The people who complain the loudest about this car are the ones who don't buy new sports cars.