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Very puzzling styling--like a more swoopy 370Z with some Z4/M-coupe haunches and ugly modern BMW interior. Which is a strange way to go, after the iconic smoot
by sk5t 8y ago
Very puzzling styling--like a more swoopy 370Z with some Z4/M-coupe haunches and ugly modern BMW interior. Which is a strange way to go, after the iconic smooth lines, workmanlike cockpit, and basket handle spoiler of the Mk4.
I think Toyota and BMW are nuts to think this model will draw any 718 Cayman buyers. Who is seriously going to pass on the Porsche PDK (or manual transmission) and mid-rear engine for a front engine and torque converter?
It's nice that Toyota is trying, yet baffling that they came up with some sort of "German fixed-roof autobox Miata" to do it.
- esoterae 8y agoIt's a Z4. Chassis and engine.
- mulmen 8y agoAnd interior. And factory.
- mulmen 8y agoToyota doesn’t “get it” anymore. I see a lot of paralleles to the late 70s downfall of GM. The beancounters took over and nothing of the soul of the company remains. Objectively this car is fine but it’s not a Toyota in any way.
- Cookingboy 8y ago>I think Toyota and BMW are nuts to think this model will draw any 718 Cayman buyers. Who is seriously going to pass on the Porsche PDK (or manual transmission) and mid-rear engine for a front engine and torque converter? So I've driven many versions of the ZF8, honestly even though it's not Porsche PDK, it's still very capable and I prefer the newer ones to the DCT in my F80 M3. Hell, even the new M5 uses the ZF8 transmission now and dumped the DCT. sheepishly raises hand. I mean, it's quicker than a base model 718 while being much better equipped and is about half the price of a equally equipped 718S. If money is no objection whatsoever then sure, 718 all the way, but unfortunately that's not the case for most people, even sports car buyers.