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I could almost guarantee that anyone who thinks anarchocapitalism is an innovation has never been kidnapped, ransomed, subject to extortion, or lived under a co

I could almost guarantee that anyone who thinks anarchocapitalism is an innovation has never been kidnapped, ransomed, subject to extortion, or lived under a corrupt regime supported though bribes and cronyism.

x220 8y ago
Crypto isn't anarchocapitalism and that is derailing the subject. All those social ills occur under countries with regulated fiat currency.
- nosuchthing 8y ago
  You just said, in paraphrase using cryptocurrency software "[to bypass the legal system is a] fantastic use case", which is anarchocapitalism in its purest form. You can't pretend cryptocurrency is made to bypass only unjust laws and regulations.
  - x220 8y ago
    Look up the definition of anarchocapitalism, please, and you'll see it doesn't match the definition of what we are dealing with. Distributed internet also evades the ability of most single nations to censor or regulate it. Does that also make the internet anarchocapitalism? Every technology is used illegally sometimes. That's not an argument in itself.
    - nosuchthing 8y ago
      The exact terminology is beside the point. Cryptocurrency software is a large scale enabler for ransom, kidnapping, and money laundering, bribery, etc. There's a reason ransomware was not feasible with cash at the scale it's happening today.
      - x220 8y ago
        >Cryptocurrency software is a large scale enabler for ransom, kidnapping, and money laundering, bribery, etc All of those were done before cryptocurrency even existed. It's not enabling those things if those things are clearly possible without cryptocurrency.
        nosuchthing 8y ago
        The difference is the ease and magnitude. Where there even cases of demanding payments for ransomware before Bitcoin? Ransomware and international money laundering are easier with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Monereo. It's arguably their only real world use case due to the high overhead cost, risk, and instability of transacting though those systems versus "traditional" fiat based transfer systems.

x220 8y ago

Crypto isn't anarchocapitalism and that is derailing the subject. All those social ills occur under countries with regulated fiat currency.

nosuchthing 8y ago
You just said, in paraphrase using cryptocurrency software "[to bypass the legal system is a] fantastic use case", which is anarchocapitalism in its purest form. You can't pretend cryptocurrency is made to bypass only unjust laws and regulations.
- x220 8y ago
  Look up the definition of anarchocapitalism, please, and you'll see it doesn't match the definition of what we are dealing with. Distributed internet also evades the ability of most single nations to censor or regulate it. Does that also make the internet anarchocapitalism? Every technology is used illegally sometimes. That's not an argument in itself.
  - nosuchthing 8y ago
    The exact terminology is beside the point. Cryptocurrency software is a large scale enabler for ransom, kidnapping, and money laundering, bribery, etc. There's a reason ransomware was not feasible with cash at the scale it's happening today.
    - x220 8y ago
      >Cryptocurrency software is a large scale enabler for ransom, kidnapping, and money laundering, bribery, etc All of those were done before cryptocurrency even existed. It's not enabling those things if those things are clearly possible without cryptocurrency.
      - nosuchthing 8y ago
        The difference is the ease and magnitude. Where there even cases of demanding payments for ransomware before Bitcoin? Ransomware and international money laundering are easier with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Monereo. It's arguably their only real world use case due to the high overhead cost, risk, and instability of transacting though those systems versus "traditional" fiat based transfer systems.