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> There are all sorts of laws which protect people from themselves, this is nothing new. See; seatbelt laws for an obvious and simple example. and they are all
by leetcrew 8y ago
> There are all sorts of laws which protect people from themselves, this is nothing new. See; seatbelt laws for an obvious and simple example.
and they are all a grotesque overextension of state power. although seatbelt laws are actually not a good example; they protect people outside your vehicle as well.
I guess we just have different values. I don't want to be a revenue center for the state to optimize.
- ciupicri 8y agoHow do seatbealts protect people outside the vehicle?
- leetcrew 8y agosee int_9h's post. in the event of a crash, unrestrained passengers can hit other people in the car or go through the windshield.
- EpicEng 8y ago>and they are all a grotesque overextension of state power Well, that's certainly a valid viewpoint, but secondary (and primary) seat belt laws have saved a staggering number of lives. You're correct that it's perhaps not the best example as the driver and occupants can turn into projectiles and harm others, but the vast majority of deaths and injuries come to those not wearing a seat belt[1]. >I don't want to be a revenue center for the state to optimize It's not about being a 'profit center' for a host of corrupt politicians. We can debate what tax money should be spent on, or the rate at which they are levied, but I imagine we would both agree that taxes themselves are necessary for the maintenance of a healthy society. Your life is better when those around you are healthy and productive. None of us exist in a vacuum. [1]: https://web.stanford.edu/~leinav/pubs/RESTAT2003.pdf https://web.stanford.edu/~leinav/pubs/RESTAT2003.pdf