3 ms·

> I find the Arc version much more readable, even though I have never used Arc. I find the intellectual dishonesty of fanbois irritating.

by zedshaw 16y ago

icey 16y ago
Surely people can have differing opinions without being intellectually dishonest, right?
jules 16y ago
A Roman and an Arab meet. The Arab: Look how easy this is: 1234 + 4321 = 5555. The Roman: I don't understand that. It's probably a trick, it only seems quick. How could anyone ever understand that? Look, this is understandable even though it is a little more characters: MCCXXXIV + MMMMCCCXXI = MMMMMDLV. In what way am I being intellectually dishonest? That you (along with the 6 people that upvoted you) don't understand the Arc code doesn't mean that I don't. If anyone is being intellectually dishonest it's you. You are dismissing a piece of code that you don't even understand, and do not even try to understand. Then when somebody comes along and says that he finds the 4 line piece of code easier to read than your 40+ line piece of code, you claim he's lying. FWIW, I have written a (toy) continuations based web framework in Ruby (the same technique Arc is based on). So when you still don't believe that I understand the Arc code and find it more readable, what can I say? Open your mind and try to understand how continuation based web programming works. It's not that hard. Then you'll understand real reasons why it doesn't work well in practice and you'll be able to write some honest criticism of it (and as a bonus you'll understand why news.yc sometimes gives you "request timed out" errors). Heck, I'd claim it doesn't work at all in practice in it's current rendition for the vast majority of sites. Would you still call me a fanboi? And you didn't answer my questions.
- FraaJad 16y ago
  Indians invented the positional numbering system. Arabs only introduced it to your part of the world.
  - nivertech 16y ago
    This is why tech guys are nothing without sales & marketing guys ;) Indians (tech) -> Arabs/Jews[1] (sales & marketing) -> Romans/Europe (target market) [1] Most of Aramaic and Arabic texts were translated into Latin by Jews in the medieval Spain

> I find the Arc version much more readable, even though I have never used Arc. I find the intellectual dishonesty of fanbois irritating.

by zedshaw 16y ago

> I find the Arc version much more readable, even though I have never used Arc. I find the intellectual dishonesty of fanbois irritating.

icey 16y ago

Surely people can have differing opinions without being intellectually dishonest, right?

jules 16y ago

A Roman and an Arab meet. The Arab: Look how easy this is: 1234 + 4321 = 5555. The Roman: I don't understand that. It's probably a trick, it only seems quick. How could anyone ever understand that? Look, this is understandable even though it is a little more characters: MCCXXXIV + MMMMCCCXXI = MMMMMDLV. In what way am I being intellectually dishonest? That you (along with the 6 people that upvoted you) don't understand the Arc code doesn't mean that I don't. If anyone is being intellectually dishonest it's you. You are dismissing a piece of code that you don't even understand, and do not even try to understand. Then when somebody comes along and says that he finds the 4 line piece of code easier to read than your 40+ line piece of code, you claim he's lying. FWIW, I have written a (toy) continuations based web framework in Ruby (the same technique Arc is based on). So when you still don't believe that I understand the Arc code and find it more readable, what can I say? Open your mind and try to understand how continuation based web programming works. It's not that hard. Then you'll understand real reasons why it doesn't work well in practice and you'll be able to write some honest criticism of it (and as a bonus you'll understand why news.yc sometimes gives you "request timed out" errors). Heck, I'd claim it doesn't work at all in practice in it's current rendition for the vast majority of sites. Would you still call me a fanboi? And you didn't answer my questions.

FraaJad 16y ago
Indians invented the positional numbering system. Arabs only introduced it to your part of the world.
- nivertech 16y ago
  This is why tech guys are nothing without sales & marketing guys ;) Indians (tech) -> Arabs/Jews[1] (sales & marketing) -> Romans/Europe (target market) [1] Most of Aramaic and Arabic texts were translated into Latin by Jews in the medieval Spain