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Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible
by NicoJuicy 8y ago
Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible
- st3fan 8y agoWhy does the glass always have to be half empty? Maybe Apple simply was the better choice?
- jhall1468 8y agoDDG's entire schtick was privacy and they are switching from open data + commercial sources to a commercial company.
- godelski 8y agoIs it though? A few months ago Apple Maps gave me wrong directions going from Custer State Park to Mt. Rushmore (two major tourist locations relatively near one another).
- atomwaffel 8y agoAt least here in western Norway, Mapbox’s directions are incredibly buggy, to the point where they’ll send you on a 150-kilometre scenic drive (including two ferries) to avoid a tunnel instead of going 15 kilometres straight through the mountain. This is apparently because they’re rolling their own telemetrics-based data on top of the OSM road network. Then again, Apple Maps (on DuckDuckGo) seems to think I that want my maps labelled in Indonesian, so you may still have a point.
- ams6110 8y agoPrivacy aside, Apple maps, in my experience, are definitely worse than Google in terms of actually corresponding to reality. Apple Maps navigation also takes me on convoluted routes far more often than Google does.
- itwasntandy 8y agoMy own experience ( North east US) has been somewhat different recently. Yes routes from Apple maps, may appear longer or more convoluted at first glance. However after using it ( due to CarPlay) for a while on routes I had previously regularly done using google maps, I inferred a reasoning for that. On the ~90 minute journey to my in-laws, the predicted journey time, is generally advertised as being quicker on google, but in practice the time difference is marginal. What was different in my experience anyway, is that Apple maps seems to try to minimize left turns where appropriate. The benefit being a noticeably less stressful journey. Has anyone else noticed this?
- macintux 8y agoI can’t speak to left turns, but someone attempted a careful evaluation of the turn-by-turn options and Apple’s estimates were generally more conservative, leading to the conclusion that you point out, that Apple looked slower but wasn’t.
- maxerickson 8y agoTo be fair, the glass is often full of gasoline.
- SEJeff 8y agoThat and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.
- taf2 8y agoAre they or do you just believe that because of what you think you know about the difference between the two companies?
- ad-hominem 8y agoApple's business model is not selling your data for advertisements. They make their money the old-fashioned way - charging customers for their product (hardware).
- Kye 8y agoI'm currently on my first iPhone. They spell out what they do with data in just about every app and setting. There's an almost annoying number of modals related to privacy and general control of data. Maybe it's all for show, but they seem to take privacy seriously.
- foepys 8y agoAfaik Apple went above and beyond to make sure their original iPhone fingerprint sensor never leaked the fingerprint to any app or even the OS itself. Android always just did whatever with the print. If that's the same philosophy now, Apple is definitely better than Google in terms of privacy. Full disclosure: I own an Android device and no Apple product except an iPod from 2009 or so.
- cronix 8y agoIs it really private though if it's all being collected, encryption and all, to be decrypted at a future date when the technology is available? All data on the net is captured by the NSA and stored at multiple data centers. One's in Utah. No company can really claim privacy if their product touches the internet since all of the pipes are tapped. It's all semantics. Maybe saying "we don't directly..." or "we don't make it easy..." would be more accurate. There is no privacy on the net, period. It's temporary privacy in the immediate present at best. 5 years from now? They might be able to decrypt everything from the last 10 years that they already have stored. It's guaranteed at some point. 6 years ago Snowden also revealed Apple was on board with the data collection. They are lying, and people don't care and go along with the show. https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/01/21/nsa-leaker-edward-snowden-refuses-to-use-apples-iphone-over-spying-concerns---report https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/01/21/nsa-leaker-edward...
- jakewalker 8y agowhy would it be a "donation"? DDG isn't a charity.
- mda 8y agoHow much do you think DDG will pay apple for this?
- aylmao 8y agoOr a deal. Perhaps DDG will help Apple out as provider of search data of some kind (like WolframAlpha, or Yelp). Not sure what this could be that Apple can't do themselves though. If Apple wants to focus more on services it makes sense to onboard people into using their APIs and challenging Google on this developer front too.