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UBS hired professionals to tear down a model 3 and they think the raw tech is way ahead of the competition. Read the report yourself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/

by SEJeff 8y ago

UBS hired professionals to tear down a model 3 and they think the raw tech is way ahead of the competition. Read the report yourself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?d... Munroe's teardown also had some interesting findings (both good and bad, but that was the goal): https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/29/munro-tesla-model-3-teardown-report-provokes-tesla/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/29/munro-tesla-model-3-tea... A suspension worthy of formula one was quite a compliment. I'd say there are some things that Tesla does uniquely well. Safety is another one. Remember that time the NTHSA literallyu broke their testing machine when testing the Model S for crash safety? No? Here are some videos: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/videos/a5238/watch-the-tesla-model-s-break-the-nhtsa-crash-test-scale/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/videos/a5238/watch-the...

treis 8y ago
>UBS hired professionals to tear down a model 3 and they think the raw tech is way ahead of the competition. Read the report yourself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?d.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?d.... That reads like an ad paid for by Tesla
- Latteland 8y ago
  Multiple separate automobile teardown companies have reported the same thing, basically, we don't believe it can be this good then afterwards, wow, this is more sophisticated than they believed anyone would do now. Such as https://electrek.co/2018/07/26/tesla-model-3-teardown-electric-powertrain/ https://electrek.co/2018/07/26/tesla-model-3-teardown-electr...
  - SEJeff 8y ago
    Literally my point! Tesla can't do that! hires professionals to reverse engineer a Tesla Oh , Tesla did that! What shall we do today Pinky?
- SEJeff 8y ago
  Read the report yourself. It stands on its own.
astrodust 8y ago
There's two parts to engineering: Making something good, and making something you can manufacture inexpensively. These two are in complete contradiction most of the time. You can "engineer" the hell out of something and still do a terrible job as an engineer. Tesla's infatuation with novel, clever things often gets in the way of shipping. Their fiasco with the model X gull-wing doors is just one example of a billion. It's easy to make your car better when you can charge vastly more and you've got tons of VC money you can blow through in pursuit of some distant goal. Established car companies have no such luxury. This is not to say Tesla hasn't had some wins, but on the whole they're losing. Arguably Tesla is the Juicero of cars.
- freehunter 8y ago
  >It's easy to make your car better when you can charge vastly more and you've got tons of VC money you can blow through in pursuit of some distant goal. Established car companies have no such luxury. Isn't that called "disruption" and is the entire reason Silicon Valley exists?
  - astrodust 8y ago
    You can "disrupt" without being in the Valley, plus a lot of companies that claim they're disrupting are just cherry-picking customers and barely moving the needle in terms of net-new technology. It's easy to make a billion dollar start-up if you get two billion in cash you can blow on acquisitions. It's hard to make that company survive more than ten years. When Tesla runs out of VC money, which they will, things are going to turn ugly in a hurry. All this money they've blown on door hinges and sending cars into space will be gone and they'll have to turn a profit. I'm not sure they can without massively cutting back and radically simplifying their product.

by SEJeff 8y ago

treis 8y ago

>UBS hired professionals to tear down a model 3 and they think the raw tech is way ahead of the competition. Read the report yourself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?d.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wfof8kfw02cbbf/Teardown%206.pdf?d.... That reads like an ad paid for by Tesla

Latteland 8y ago
Multiple separate automobile teardown companies have reported the same thing, basically, we don't believe it can be this good then afterwards, wow, this is more sophisticated than they believed anyone would do now. Such as https://electrek.co/2018/07/26/tesla-model-3-teardown-electric-powertrain/ https://electrek.co/2018/07/26/tesla-model-3-teardown-electr...
- SEJeff 8y ago
  Literally my point! Tesla can't do that! hires professionals to reverse engineer a Tesla Oh , Tesla did that! What shall we do today Pinky?
SEJeff 8y ago
Read the report yourself. It stands on its own.

astrodust 8y ago

There's two parts to engineering: Making something good, and making something you can manufacture inexpensively. These two are in complete contradiction most of the time. You can "engineer" the hell out of something and still do a terrible job as an engineer. Tesla's infatuation with novel, clever things often gets in the way of shipping. Their fiasco with the model X gull-wing doors is just one example of a billion. It's easy to make your car better when you can charge vastly more and you've got tons of VC money you can blow through in pursuit of some distant goal. Established car companies have no such luxury. This is not to say Tesla hasn't had some wins, but on the whole they're losing. Arguably Tesla is the Juicero of cars.

freehunter 8y ago
>It's easy to make your car better when you can charge vastly more and you've got tons of VC money you can blow through in pursuit of some distant goal. Established car companies have no such luxury. Isn't that called "disruption" and is the entire reason Silicon Valley exists?
- astrodust 8y ago
  You can "disrupt" without being in the Valley, plus a lot of companies that claim they're disrupting are just cherry-picking customers and barely moving the needle in terms of net-new technology. It's easy to make a billion dollar start-up if you get two billion in cash you can blow on acquisitions. It's hard to make that company survive more than ten years. When Tesla runs out of VC money, which they will, things are going to turn ugly in a hurry. All this money they've blown on door hinges and sending cars into space will be gone and they'll have to turn a profit. I'm not sure they can without massively cutting back and radically simplifying their product.