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This reminds me a recent story when Norvegian Airlines plane was forced to land in Iran due to [engine problem][1]. As a result: The passengers have now off
by jeff_vader 8y ago
This reminds me a recent story when Norvegian Airlines plane was forced to land in Iran due to [engine problem][1].
As a result:
The passengers have now officially entered Iran,
and no longer are allowed to enter the US under
the visa waiver program. This means if any of
them are flying onwards from Oslo to New York
(which many are) they have to go to a US embassy
and ask for permission. They might have to do it
for the rest of their lives.
[1]: https://www.airlive.net/boeing-737-max-8-stuck-in-iran-since-december-14-a-real-headache-for-norwegian/ https://www.airlive.net/boeing-737-max-8-stuck-in-iran-since...
- komali2 8y agoI can't see a single sane thing about this situation, and none of my senators seem to give a shit. When I call my comments are "noted." It's a bad idea. It shouldn't be that way.
- perfmode 8y ago“You should exercise your right to vote” “Clearly, since this is the policy, it indicates that this is the will of the American people and a majority support the policy.”
- dsfyu404ed 8y agoSo vote for someone else the next time around and tweet @$incumbent (or let them know in some other way) that you just voted for $othercanidate because they do not take your concerns about $subject seriously enough. Basically just be vocal about your issue.
- marssaxman 8y agoThe list of current policies which are wildly unjust or flat-out insane, and for which this strategy would have to be applied, is always much longer than the list of candidates. There are no US elections, ever, in which it is possible to vote for any candidate who would not have to receive a long list of such twitter posts. I don't see how this strategy can work.
- mLuby 8y agoIn a republic that doesn't work. Citizens have one lever to control policy: vote for or against their representative. We see this all the time with statements like "I don't like X's view on abortion but I think Y's position on climate change is even more damaging so I'm voting for X."
- komali2 8y agoDo you believe this will have an effect?
- andersonvom 8y agoProbably not in the short term and only if enough people start doing it. I like the idea of making it clear for the people you're voting for and against why you're voting/not voting for them. Hopefully, it'll influence their future platforms.
- owenmarshall 8y agoIf you contact your congresscritter over their official congressional channels - email, phone, Twitter, plain ol' letter - and tell them you plan to vote for/against them because of $X, a very polite intern will tell you that they will record your support/opposition to $X but that they cannot pass along your comment on voting to your congresscritter. Be sure to share that with their campaign: that's how you get that message through.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
- SamReidHughes 8y agoThe sane thing about it is that it keeps the rule system simpler.
- justadudeama 8y agoI wish there was a follow up for this article. At the end it says > Special arrangements will have to be made between Iranian and US authorities. Which makes it sound like they worked something out so that this doesn't effect their travel.
- gambiting 8y agoI mean, it happened less than 2 weeks ago - it's possible nothing has been worked out yet.
- dsfyu404ed 8y agoYeah. This seems like a back burner issue for everyone except maybe a couple people on the flight who have trips to the US planned already. In any case it's minor enough that a reasonable solution will probably be reached unless there happens to be a geopolitical flare up and this minor issue gets used as a pawn.
- justadudeama 8y agoOh wow, I never checked the date. Thank you!
- ragazzina 8y ago>They might have to do it for the rest of their lives. They could do this only once every 10 years (after applying for a tourist B2 visa).
- gambiting 8y agoA transit C-1 visa is usually only valid for few months though, so this can still screw you over if you transit through US regularly. And no, you can't apply for a B2 visa "just in case"(I mean you can, but I doubt such request would succeed).
- seszett 8y agoWell, I suppose the simplest solution is that they declare their passports lost or stolen and ask for new ones before getting to the US. The new passports won't have traces of their entering Iran, and the US will not get their hands on the old passports and never know they were in Iran.
- gambiting 8y agoYou can't lie if an official document asks if you've ever been to Iran though. So this could be an issue if ever applying for a green card/citizenship in US.
- aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago>You can't lie Demonstrably false.
- sk5t 8y ago"Gosh, I must have slept through the whole thing!"
- icebraining 8y agoThat didn't really matter. The statements are considered false even if you didn't know them to be false.
- hiccuphippo 8y agoCuban agents used to put the stamp in a separate paper instead of the passport so you don't have trouble if you plan to go to the US later. Not sure if that's needed anymore.
- reaperducer 8y agoAh. That explains a lot. I've gotten these stamps-on-paper before, and never knew why.
- aqme28 8y ago