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> Really, my issue is stuff on my own network. I want to see what my TV sends home. Same with an amazon-echo, or really any IoT thing. Yet, if they all use SSL
by jstanley 8y ago
> Really, my issue is stuff on my own network. I want to see what my TV sends home. Same with an amazon-echo, or really any IoT thing. Yet, if they all use SSL and don't allow me to add a root CA, I can't look at what they run.
Which is part of why the more paranoid of us steadfastly refuse to own such devices.
- rocqua 8y agoI'm hoping for something like 'Right to Repair' or 'Right to Tinker' that'll let us verify more devices are trustworthy. My smart TV (I am ashamed to admit I have one) is really useful. Very little about the idea of a TV with build-in Plex support requires it be totally locked down. Hence it is a buisness decision that could be competed or regulated away. (I was going to make the same argument about a TV with build-in Netflix support, but I believe the DRM requirements of Netflix require quite a bit of lock-down)
- logfromblammo 8y agoSome of us (for whom Charisma is not their dump stat) need to get elected to national legislative assemblies and form technology and engineering caucuses. Possible items for its agenda: - Right to Repair - Right to Tinker - Right to "Pwn Ur Own" - Hardware sellers required to deliver firmware source to buyers --- including build scripts --- including device-specific signing keys --- even for cars and tractors - Public APIs required for public-facing services - Right to non-backdoored strong encryption - Formal requirements for custodianship of PII - Formal requirements for security in IoT devices - Ban on local monopolies on wired telecoms - Definitions for terms used in advertising (i.e. "5G") - Establish a separate USPTO regime specifically for computer programs The lawyers of the Boomer generation that seem to be running the show now are not very well-suited to understand the near-future problems in the technology field. A lot of these problems are better solved by strongarming companies into behaving more eusocially than by attempting a technical solution or starting disruptive competitor businesses.
- aaaaaaaaaab 8y agoOk, I’ll draw the logo!
- Red_Pill_Phil 8y agoI'm interested in doing it. For awhile I've been wondering if people would like me to be their spokes person for such issues. I have a lot of experience and I think I have a mind for politics as well. I think its really critical we get it right at this point in history. I would love to work with others for such a cause. If you have any advice to get started I would humbly accept. I think its really critical we get it right at this point in history.
- robohoe 8y agoAnd sadly it's near-impossible to find a non-Smart TV these days :(
- wernercd 8y agoSmart TVs can be left unconfigured and not plugged in via Ethernet.
- DenisM 8y agoI would also smash any 2.4gz antennas inside the TV for a good measure. They might not have access to your WiFi network, but the XFinitiWiFi is available to any TV maker for a modest sum of money. That, or you can buy a commercial display instead of a TV.
- znpy 8y agoif you have enough networking skills and a more-than-decent switch, you might let your smart-tv live in a different, dedicated vlan where it can't see any other systems within your network. What's more important, is the possibility of having a camera-less and microphone-less smart-tv. Or to have the possibility of practicing a microphonectomy and a camerectomyon your smart-tv.
- feanaro 8y agoIs it really paranoid anymore to refuse to own them? At this point, it just seems to be common sense.