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IMO, the Wikivoyage link is a better one: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Avoiding_travel_through_the_United_States https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Avoiding_trave

IMO, the Wikivoyage link is a better one: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Avoiding_travel_through_the_United_States https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Avoiding_travel_through_the_U... In general I'd recommend Wikivoyage over Wikitravel - the material seems fresher and it is run by a community rather than a corporation with heavy-handed policies.

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paulgb 8y ago
For anyone new to the distinction, Internet Brands bought Wikitravel and the community didn't like that, so they forked to Wikivoyage. IB tried suing Wikivoyage for this despite it being allowed under the content license -- either IB didn't do their due diligence on the license of the content they bought, or they thought they could bully the community fork through the cost of fighting it alone. It was eventually thrown out of court, as it should have been. Wikivoyage is now hosted by Wikimedia, the same nonprofit that hosts Wikipedia.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  Thank you for the context.
- cjensen 8y ago
  Just to really emphasize this... Internet Brands literally sued one of the volunteer admins for this[1]. Please use Wikivoyage instead! [1] Disclosure: As an admin, I may or may not have been one of the "unnamed co-conspirators" in the lawsuit before IB dropped the suit
  - paulgb 8y ago
    Thanks for fighting for what's right! I was not involved and was mostly recalling on memory, did I get any details wrong?
    - cjensen 8y ago
      I wasn't the one who actually got sued. He had to deal with the mountain of nonsense, not me
- cedivad 8y ago
  That reads like vBulletin vs XenForo to me. Funny.
medmunds 8y ago
> recommend Wikivoyage over Wikitravel Seconded. Wikivoyage was a fork of Wikitrsvel. The history is... interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and_Wikimedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_a...
- metalliqaz 8y ago
  Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and_Wikimedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and...
turdnagel 8y ago
Are there any community guidelines around linking to sources when making claims about what a party might have said? On that very page is the claim: > US officials have said Canadians may be banned for life from entering the US for legally smoking it, or for working for or investing in the legal companies involved. Which may very well be true, but cannot be verified without a source.
- trynewideas 8y ago
  Just checked the article Talk page and the editor who added it linked to https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/cannabis/2018/09/13/canadians-who-smoke-marijuana-legally-or-work-or-invest-in-the-industry-will-be-barred-from-the-us-customs-and-border-protection-official.html https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/cannabis/2018/09/13/canadia... from there.

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paulgb 8y ago

For anyone new to the distinction, Internet Brands bought Wikitravel and the community didn't like that, so they forked to Wikivoyage. IB tried suing Wikivoyage for this despite it being allowed under the content license -- either IB didn't do their due diligence on the license of the content they bought, or they thought they could bully the community fork through the cost of fighting it alone. It was eventually thrown out of court, as it should have been. Wikivoyage is now hosted by Wikimedia, the same nonprofit that hosts Wikipedia.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
Thank you for the context.
cjensen 8y ago
Just to really emphasize this... Internet Brands literally sued one of the volunteer admins for this[1]. Please use Wikivoyage instead! [1] Disclosure: As an admin, I may or may not have been one of the "unnamed co-conspirators" in the lawsuit before IB dropped the suit
- paulgb 8y ago
  Thanks for fighting for what's right! I was not involved and was mostly recalling on memory, did I get any details wrong?
  - cjensen 8y ago
    I wasn't the one who actually got sued. He had to deal with the mountain of nonsense, not me
cedivad 8y ago
That reads like vBulletin vs XenForo to me. Funny.

medmunds 8y ago

> recommend Wikivoyage over Wikitravel Seconded. Wikivoyage was a fork of Wikitrsvel. The history is... interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and_Wikimedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_a...

metalliqaz 8y ago
Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and_Wikimedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Brands#Wikitravel_and...

turdnagel 8y ago

Are there any community guidelines around linking to sources when making claims about what a party might have said? On that very page is the claim: > US officials have said Canadians may be banned for life from entering the US for legally smoking it, or for working for or investing in the legal companies involved. Which may very well be true, but cannot be verified without a source.

trynewideas 8y ago
Just checked the article Talk page and the editor who added it linked to https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/cannabis/2018/09/13/canadians-who-smoke-marijuana-legally-or-work-or-invest-in-the-industry-will-be-barred-from-the-us-customs-and-border-protection-official.html https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/cannabis/2018/09/13/canadia... from there.