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Oh please, I have owned two new ones, the last in 2017. They are not exactly "quiet" as new but not nearly as loud as those who straight pipe. After market pipe

Oh please, I have owned two new ones, the last in 2017. They are not exactly "quiet" as new but not nearly as loud as those who straight pipe. After market pipes certified for road use still must meet Federal law. Plus recently as for more current models the EPA slapped HD with fines and future penalties over the modification of the engine and exhaust which really has cut down on the noise because HD will void your warranty with the EPA blessing if you use unapproved modifications which includes exhaust. Plus Harley isn't unique in attracting drivers/riders who make their exhaust system obnoxiously loud and yes they annoy many of their fellow HD riders too - they get to ride in the back of the pack. Plus if you are in California look up AB1824 which changed the loud exhaust regulations to assess a fine in every case. Used to be if you got pulled you could simply produce a receipt stating you fixed the loud exhaust and pay no fine but people were skirting that with obvious success. So yes, governments do care. Some HOA and Condo association ban all motorcycles because of noise. Now with regards to drones, noisy little suckers. The other issue is a private citizen is heavily restricted where they can even fly them. State parks are off limits in most states, any place where people gather of course is out, you can even be blocked from flying them on your property by many HOA and Condo associations (mentioned them before for similar reasons). Locally to me, Cobb County Georgia has an association for model aircraft that may support drones. They have their own field put in with tax dollars but "maintained" by user fees. Don't even think of using it until you pony up to two different organizations and an initiation fee and such. Yet places which are set aside for the legal use of drones may end up being this way unless the industry adapts. My father's recent DJI purchase did not automatically include the propeller guards, seems there is good profit in selling replacement blades. It definitely is noisy and I would expect research into blade technology can remedy some of that, surely the military has already done so.

leetcrew 8y ago
> My father's recent DJI purchase did not automatically include the propeller guards, seems there is good profit in selling replacement blades. you don't necessarily want prop guards most of the time. they make the props less efficient, which decreases aerodynamic performance and battery life.
- DerekRobot 8y ago
  IMO, the Spark should come with them- DJI encourages users to launch and land directly on their hand.
  - leetcrew 8y ago
    that's a fair point. you shouldn't encourage your customers to do something like that without including the bits of plastic that make it safe. that said, I got the combo bundle with rotor guards and I almost never use them because they make the drone so squirrelly in wind. I hand launch/land every time and I have yet to cut myself on the rotors. I was very happy to have them when I used the drone to check all my gutters for leaves, takes a lot of the stress out of flying so close to the roof.

leetcrew 8y ago

> My father's recent DJI purchase did not automatically include the propeller guards, seems there is good profit in selling replacement blades. you don't necessarily want prop guards most of the time. they make the props less efficient, which decreases aerodynamic performance and battery life.

DerekRobot 8y ago
IMO, the Spark should come with them- DJI encourages users to launch and land directly on their hand.
- leetcrew 8y ago
  that's a fair point. you shouldn't encourage your customers to do something like that without including the bits of plastic that make it safe. that said, I got the combo bundle with rotor guards and I almost never use them because they make the drone so squirrelly in wind. I hand launch/land every time and I have yet to cut myself on the rotors. I was very happy to have them when I used the drone to check all my gutters for leaves, takes a lot of the stress out of flying so close to the roof.