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Yes this is getting bad. It happened to my father a few years ago as well when he was sitting on the side of the road answering a phone call with the window ope

by setquk 8y ago

Yes this is getting bad. It happened to my father a few years ago as well when he was sitting on the side of the road answering a phone call with the window open in Chiswick. Fortunately he grabbed the guy and shut the window on his arm. He got free but not until he'd got a couple of broken fingers. Police did nothing because the bike was stolen. And thus the cycle continues.

Pimpus 8y ago
I don't understand this story at all.
- gjm11 8y ago
  > I don't understand this story at all. setquk's father was sat in a car parked at the side of the road, presumably in the driver's seat, with the window open, and was using a mobile phone. Someone came along on a motorbike, reached in through the open window, and grabbed his phone with the intention of stealing it. He was quick enough to get hold of the would-be thief's arm and wind the window up, with the intention of trapping the thief there and summoning the police to arrest them. Unfortunately, the thief escaped (but suffered some broken fingers in the process, presumably as setquk's father tried to hold him there); and unfortunately, although setquk's father was able to give the police the licence-plate number of the motorcycle the thief was using, this didn't help to track it down because the motorcycle was also stolen (and I guess the thief abandoned it shortly after this incident). setquk sees this as another example of the same phenomenon described in the article and by dtf: opportunistic mobile-phone thieves on motorcycles.
  - setquk 8y ago
    Nailed it
pbalau 8y ago
> Yes this is getting bad. Actually, is getting better [1]. Somebody posted the link right above your comment. > It happened to my father a few years ago [...] And you assume that nothing changed since then. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/23/met-police-say-tough-tactics-have-reduced-violent-moped https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/23/met-police-s...
- setquk 8y ago
  How can they say there has been a reduction when the people on 101 tell you to sod off and speak to your insurance company? This has happened to two people I know in 2018.
  - pbalau 8y ago
    Mate, I think you might have some logic issues... I doubt the police told your friends to sod off. And what exactly did you expect them to do? Get 10 patrols, 1 heli in the air, organize a man hunt to find a bloody phone? Try reporting a crime that involves bodily harm or weapons, see how fast they react. It's a matter of priorities. There was an armed robbery at the off licence where I buy smokes from, the police was there in about 15 minutes after it happened, they chatted with everyone around (there is a pub right next door), they checked the cameras and it seems, as per the owner, they found the perpetrator. As a funny note, the dude managed to steal about 20 quid, all the store had in notes at the time. So chill, have a kitkat, stuff is getting better.
    - davidmr 8y ago
      I’m not sure you understood. Regardless of whether they send out the helicopter, if they don’t take a report, the crime isn’t counted. You can’t say anything meaningful about whether crimes are getting more or less prevalent if your stats are bad.
      - pbalau 8y ago
        You assume they didn't take the report based on what? On the OP suggesting the police told his friends to sod off?

by setquk 8y ago

Pimpus 8y ago

I don't understand this story at all.

gjm11 8y ago
> I don't understand this story at all. setquk's father was sat in a car parked at the side of the road, presumably in the driver's seat, with the window open, and was using a mobile phone. Someone came along on a motorbike, reached in through the open window, and grabbed his phone with the intention of stealing it. He was quick enough to get hold of the would-be thief's arm and wind the window up, with the intention of trapping the thief there and summoning the police to arrest them. Unfortunately, the thief escaped (but suffered some broken fingers in the process, presumably as setquk's father tried to hold him there); and unfortunately, although setquk's father was able to give the police the licence-plate number of the motorcycle the thief was using, this didn't help to track it down because the motorcycle was also stolen (and I guess the thief abandoned it shortly after this incident). setquk sees this as another example of the same phenomenon described in the article and by dtf: opportunistic mobile-phone thieves on motorcycles.
- setquk 8y ago
  Nailed it

pbalau 8y ago

> Yes this is getting bad. Actually, is getting better [1]. Somebody posted the link right above your comment. > It happened to my father a few years ago [...] And you assume that nothing changed since then. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/23/met-police-say-tough-tactics-have-reduced-violent-moped https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/23/met-police-s...

setquk 8y ago
How can they say there has been a reduction when the people on 101 tell you to sod off and speak to your insurance company? This has happened to two people I know in 2018.
- pbalau 8y ago
  Mate, I think you might have some logic issues... I doubt the police told your friends to sod off. And what exactly did you expect them to do? Get 10 patrols, 1 heli in the air, organize a man hunt to find a bloody phone? Try reporting a crime that involves bodily harm or weapons, see how fast they react. It's a matter of priorities. There was an armed robbery at the off licence where I buy smokes from, the police was there in about 15 minutes after it happened, they chatted with everyone around (there is a pub right next door), they checked the cameras and it seems, as per the owner, they found the perpetrator. As a funny note, the dude managed to steal about 20 quid, all the store had in notes at the time. So chill, have a kitkat, stuff is getting better.
  - davidmr 8y ago
    I’m not sure you understood. Regardless of whether they send out the helicopter, if they don’t take a report, the crime isn’t counted. You can’t say anything meaningful about whether crimes are getting more or less prevalent if your stats are bad.
    - pbalau 8y ago
      You assume they didn't take the report based on what? On the OP suggesting the police told his friends to sod off?