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There is also Blast (golang), built on top of Bleve. - https://github.com/mosuka/blast https://github.com/mosuka/blast - http://blevesearch.com/ http://blevese

There is also Blast (golang), built on top of Bleve. - https://github.com/mosuka/blast https://github.com/mosuka/blast - http://blevesearch.com/ http://blevesearch.com/

ddorian43 8y ago
Yeah but it's golang, so it's kinda like java, so I see no pros in it TBH.
- rakoo 8y ago
  golang isn't even close to using the same amount of memory as java, so at least there's that.
- hardwaresofton 8y ago
  There are a lot of differences between Golang and Java. As much as I dislike writing Java when I have a choice, the JVM (with Java or whatever else on top) is a very capble tool... Could you explain what you mean by there being "no pros"? Are you maybe trying to get at the difficulty of tuning the JVM?
  - ddorian43 8y ago
    rust/c++/c has no gc and better performance/efficiency compared to java/golang. so you get excited for a library/db in those languages golang is kinda a java alternative. a db/search-engine in java/golang kinda sucks (it will under pressure)
    - hardwaresofton 8y ago
      While I definitely agree with you on the broad strokes of the differences between rust/c++/c and java/golang (representing languages without runtimes and those with them respectively), I'd say that golang is a bit more than a java alternative if we consider more than whether a runtime is included or not. Of course, if the only consideration is whether a runtime is there or not, golang is identical to java but also identical to common lisp or maybe even interpreted languages like python. I do want to point out that it's possible to write horribly buggy code in c++/c (less so in rust :), which can tank performance/efficiency when compared to a java/golang program. All things considered though, the ceiling on performance and efficiency is of course higher in manual memory management land. Thanks for clarifying what you meant!
hardwaresofton 8y ago
Wow I actually forgot about Bleve! I watched a talk on the new indexing engine a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjG2Y01i3Kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjG2Y01i3Kk Can we attribute some of this renewed zeal in the search space to the creation of more approachable systems languages (i.e. Golang and Rust)? Maybe I just haven't been watching the search space but I feel it wasn't always this full of new projects putting up good numbers.

There is also Blast (golang), built on top of Bleve. - https://github.com/mosuka/blast https://github.com/mosuka/blast - http://blevesearch.com/ http://blevesearch.com/

ddorian43 8y ago

Yeah but it's golang, so it's kinda like java, so I see no pros in it TBH.

rakoo 8y ago
golang isn't even close to using the same amount of memory as java, so at least there's that.
hardwaresofton 8y ago
There are a lot of differences between Golang and Java. As much as I dislike writing Java when I have a choice, the JVM (with Java or whatever else on top) is a very capble tool... Could you explain what you mean by there being "no pros"? Are you maybe trying to get at the difficulty of tuning the JVM?
- ddorian43 8y ago
  rust/c++/c has no gc and better performance/efficiency compared to java/golang. so you get excited for a library/db in those languages golang is kinda a java alternative. a db/search-engine in java/golang kinda sucks (it will under pressure)
  - hardwaresofton 8y ago
    While I definitely agree with you on the broad strokes of the differences between rust/c++/c and java/golang (representing languages without runtimes and those with them respectively), I'd say that golang is a bit more than a java alternative if we consider more than whether a runtime is included or not. Of course, if the only consideration is whether a runtime is there or not, golang is identical to java but also identical to common lisp or maybe even interpreted languages like python. I do want to point out that it's possible to write horribly buggy code in c++/c (less so in rust :), which can tank performance/efficiency when compared to a java/golang program. All things considered though, the ceiling on performance and efficiency is of course higher in manual memory management land. Thanks for clarifying what you meant!

hardwaresofton 8y ago

Wow I actually forgot about Bleve! I watched a talk on the new indexing engine a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjG2Y01i3Kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjG2Y01i3Kk Can we attribute some of this renewed zeal in the search space to the creation of more approachable systems languages (i.e. Golang and Rust)? Maybe I just haven't been watching the search space but I feel it wasn't always this full of new projects putting up good numbers.