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Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only
- jerkstate 8y agoImagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
- drcode 8y agoHuh, what ever happened to Beowulf clusters... I guess they were superseded by the whole Hadoop and mapreduce stuff...
- elihu 8y agoWe just started calling them clusters.
- chrisseaton 8y agoBeowulf was about the hardware and the interconnect - both being commodity. Not about the software. Most Hadoop etc runs on Beowulf I’d imagine. Clusters used to use more custom hardware and interconnects - that’s now the exception rather than the norm. You still find that in some HPC situations but most people manage with commodity cloud.
- walshemj 8y agoDepends on cluster design and size big ones use exotic interconnects not your traditional network design
- noipv4 8y agoJust build the same cluster with threadripeers add 1 or 2 extra nodes and you should be even without getting involved in auction and stuff
- tareqak 8y agoQuote from the end: "perhaps importantly, there is no warranty from Intel. This means that system builders will not be able to recoup costs on dead silicon, but they might give their own warranty to end users."
- doesnt_know 8y agoThis would be a pretty significant liability for builders in countries that have automatic consumer protections (eg: Consumer Guarantees Act in NZ). The builders would have to eat the costs of faulty units.
- vondur 8y agoThat means they probably won’t be sold there.
- xupybd 8y agoTrue, if that’s the cost of our consumer protections I’m okay with that. It’s actually really nice to live under. That said I’ve never been on the retailers end.
- xxs 8y agoEU has 2y mandatory warranty for any electronics/electrical equipment sold to retail.
- gruez 8y agoNot even implied warranty? Surely intel can't sell broken chips?
- IanCutress 8y agoDOA warranty for the OEMs. After that, Intel isn't involved.
- bradleyjg 8y agoWhere are these chips going to actually end up? Gamers with more money than sense?
- zozbot123 8y agoMeh. I'm holding out for the i9-9999.999Xtreme
- blattimwind 8y agoi9-9999xXxE
- wmf 8y agoIs that the processor endorsed by Vin Diesel? Is it "obscenely" expensive?
- jandrese 8y agoWhat this says to me is don't bother trying to super overclock a i9-9940X, Intel has already skimmed off the cream from that chip run. It seems kind of scummy, but I guess otherwise your rare stable overclock chip might end up in some boring business server where it will always run at stock clocks. I do note that Intel still wants nothing to do with overclocked chips in their warranty department, even when they did the overclocking themselves.
- gruez 8y ago>It seems kind of scummy how is it scummy? is because intel's efficiently allocating those CPUs (via auction market), rather than randomly giving them out?
- tomc1985 8y agoAn economist might call it efficient, but most would call it greed
- perl4ever 8y agoI have come around to the belief that economically efficient behavior can be more ethical. When I have something I want to get rid of, I have tried giving it away, but I learned by experience that people who are first to grab something aren't necessarily those who will make the best use of it or who need it the most. So it may be better for society to sell or auction it even if that has significant overhead. Raising more money isn't even the point; it's a side effect.
- geezerjay 8y agoMost would call it completely fair, and a proper incentive to bring similar products to market. It seems to me that greed is a problem affecting those who want it all, particularly luxury items, while complaining that they should be exempt from paying any cost.
- qeternity 8y agoGreed is good.
- blattimwind 8y agoAlso notable for a huge increase in TDP from the next-slower model (255 W vs 165 W) - and it has four fewer cores. > Other details about the chip that we have learned include that it will have a listed TDP of 255W, which means the peak power will be higher. Motherboard vendors will have to support 420 amps on the power delivery for the chip (which at 1.3 volts would be 546 watts), and up to 30 amps per core.
- sandworm101 8y ago550+ watts is insane. That is spaceheater territory. Residential outlets start tripping at 1500-2000 watts. How soon we will have to run even basic gaming machines off multiple outlets.
- Arn_Thor 8y agoI've never tripped an outlet on less than 2500 watts, and that was an old electrical network... Did I get lucky or do standards vary in different countries?
- klodolph 8y agoMost circuits trip on current, because I^2R heating is what causes fires in house wiring, 15A is relatively common, to get power you multiply by voltage which varies by country, in US that gives you 1800W and UK it’s 3600W. There are a ton of circuits which aren’t 15A though. If you live in UK, you might note that electric tea kettles work fine, but in the US they do not (they’re too slow). That’s the biggest practical difference to my mind, very few other portable appliances need that kind of juice, except the biggest space heaters. Big, fixed appliances get wired differently.
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- allenrb 8y agoIf you’re handy with electricity and don’t mind fracturing a few rules, European kettles work just fine on 240V 60Hz power. A British 13A plug in the kitchen is a nice conversation piece too. Note: because of the US “split phase” system, the neutral wire won’t be neutral anymore but rather 120v above ground. The kettle bases I’ve used are well designed, but do be careful.
- Latteland 8y agoThe Intel i9-9999.999999 is what I am going to wait for. Until I can get my hands on it I will get along with a thread ripper v3.
- ec109685 8y agoThis article helps with understanding how the binning process works: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning I wonder though how anandtech esitmates that only 100’s of these chips will be produced.
- walrus01 8y ago255W TDP for a single socket, holy shit, that pretty much demands a 280mm radiator size water cooling loop setup (2 x 140mm fans).
- JustAPerson 8y agoI kind of like this trend of power-hungry beastly CPUs. The AMD 2990WX is also rated 250W (but for 32c/64t@3GHz). I have one with a 280mm AIO, and it sees high 60C under load at stock frequencies. I can only overclock to 3.4GHz while sustaining heavy compute 24/7 and that's probably drawing close to 400W and heats up to mid 80C (in a room with 20C ambient). It's a pleasant space heater for the winter. Hoping to see AMD continue to push the HEDT threshold. Let the server market have their underclocked power-efficient processors. Though to be honest if things go much further I'm going to need a custom waterloop next generation.
- chx 8y agoTom's Hardware has been doing excellent power consumption analysis for years and they measured the 2990WX with PBO (factory overclocking) enabled to consume 500W in torture loop. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2-2990wx-2950x,5725-13.html https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-threadripper-...
- cmiller1 8y agoPfffft, only 280mm? Time to upgrade: https://www.lytron.com/Cooling-Systems/Standard/Recirculating-Chillers/Kodiak-XT https://www.lytron.com/Cooling-Systems/Standard/Recirculatin...
- walrus01 8y agoReminds me of the people who overclocked a slot based AMD athlon to 1GHz, setting a new record for the time, with a refrigeration loop. https://www.anandtech.com/show/432/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/432/2
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- noahl 8y agoWho needs these chips? I'm honestly curious. I've never worked on something that needed as much single-thread performance as possible and couldn't be parallelized; I'd love to know what industry will use them (and what industry would buy a small number of chips at auction prices).
- pr0zac 8y agoMy assumption is they're meant for gaming PCs and will likely all be sold to gaming PC system builders.
- ben-schaaf 8y agoConsidering no games are built to support 24 threads, most don't even scale past 8 yet, any gamer would be much better off with a 9900k. I don't know who they're targeting with this, but with the 9980xe already being so expensive if someone truly wanted maximum single core performance for games and lots of cores for other things why not buy a 9900k and a 2990wx. More performance for likely a whole lot less.
- jjuhl 8y agoMy workstation has 20 cores/40 threads and a large C++ compile job parallelizes nicely, but the linking phase does not. I could use more single threaded performance to speed up linking of our many libraries and executables.