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Now how long before an AI writes the PERFECT song?

by jermaustin1 8y ago

leesec 8y ago
No such thing. But AI will definitely write pleasing music in the next 10 years~.
- sbarker 8y ago
  Depending on pleasing, but for me they have already for the last 7 years. https://www.jukedeck.com/about https://www.jukedeck.com/about
- SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
  Wait a second, then what the hell is a Skrillex?
coverband 8y ago
Sci-fi story of note: "The Ultimate Melody" by Arthur C. Clarke[0], from 1957. [0] https://archive.org/stream/1957-02_IF#page/n71/mode/2up https://archive.org/stream/1957-02_IF#page/n71/mode/2up
- cpeterso 8y ago
  Thanks! I hadn't seen that Arthur C. Clarke story before. It reminds me of Alfred Bester's 1953 novel The Demolished Man: a murderer pays someone to write a catchy jingle (earworm) for him that can block psychics from reading his murderous thoughts.
cordonbleu 8y ago
i think we may also see the "perfect" ad jingle or notification tone, this could also be used for consumer conditioning for examle; playing a likeable sweet sound when consumer does something good [clicks on ad] or a sour tone when doing "bad" like blocking an ad or popup.
femto113 8y ago
David Cope (a professor at the college I went to) started working on that idea back in the early 80s, calling it "Musical Intelligence". His approach got the most attention for its ability to write new classical works that accurately mimicked the style of famous composers. http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm
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cpeterso 8y ago
There's already an instruction manual for writing pop hits: The KLF's The Manual (How to Have a Number One the Easy Way) is a (tongue-in-cheek) step by step guide to achieving a No.1 single with no money or musical skills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual
- taneq 8y ago
  And of course don't forget Pop Music 101 for an updated look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpWkV7IBUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpWkV7IBUw
white-flame 8y ago
Never, because "perfect" in terms of entertainment, "wow" factor, and endearment is a moving target and a product of the times. If things get overplayed, they get stale. So we constantly get new songs that reuse the same familiarity in different ways, but not literally the same replayed song.

Now how long before an AI writes the PERFECT song?

leesec 8y ago

No such thing. But AI will definitely write pleasing music in the next 10 years~.

sbarker 8y ago
Depending on pleasing, but for me they have already for the last 7 years. https://www.jukedeck.com/about https://www.jukedeck.com/about
SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
Wait a second, then what the hell is a Skrillex?

coverband 8y ago

Sci-fi story of note: "The Ultimate Melody" by Arthur C. Clarke[0], from 1957. [0] https://archive.org/stream/1957-02_IF#page/n71/mode/2up https://archive.org/stream/1957-02_IF#page/n71/mode/2up

cpeterso 8y ago
Thanks! I hadn't seen that Arthur C. Clarke story before. It reminds me of Alfred Bester's 1953 novel The Demolished Man: a murderer pays someone to write a catchy jingle (earworm) for him that can block psychics from reading his murderous thoughts.

cordonbleu 8y ago

i think we may also see the "perfect" ad jingle or notification tone, this could also be used for consumer conditioning for examle; playing a likeable sweet sound when consumer does something good [clicks on ad] or a sour tone when doing "bad" like blocking an ad or popup.

femto113 8y ago

David Cope (a professor at the college I went to) started working on that idea back in the early 80s, calling it "Musical Intelligence". His approach got the most attention for its ability to write new classical works that accurately mimicked the style of famous composers. http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm

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cpeterso 8y ago

There's already an instruction manual for writing pop hits: The KLF's The Manual (How to Have a Number One the Easy Way) is a (tongue-in-cheek) step by step guide to achieving a No.1 single with no money or musical skills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual

taneq 8y ago
And of course don't forget Pop Music 101 for an updated look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpWkV7IBUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpWkV7IBUw

white-flame 8y ago

Never, because "perfect" in terms of entertainment, "wow" factor, and endearment is a moving target and a product of the times. If things get overplayed, they get stale. So we constantly get new songs that reuse the same familiarity in different ways, but not literally the same replayed song.