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Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

stcredzero 8y ago
Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard. Can we please not imagine there is sexism just because there is some stretchy reference which can be made to marital traditions? Just don't. It's not hard. "Woo" is often used in this very context, with both male and female employees, and has been since as far back as I can remember. In fact, it's not just used for CEOs, it's also used in the vernacular for anything involving finding personnel, where the variables are complex and the stakes are relatively high.
rdiddly 8y ago
I've seen it used plenty for men too though. Ironically they were probably seduced (wooed if you will) more by the rhyme (woo/Su). Mind you I still object to it, but on aesthetic grounds, i.e. it's lazy & cliché. "SoHo eateries woo Millenial foodies" would be my best attempt at a 100% cliché headline.
tallanvor 8y ago
There's nothing sexist about the word woo. Try doing a search of news articles and you'll clearly see that woo is used to refer to men, women, and groups regularly. Here's one example from earlier this year: https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwithbenz/14461150-74/first-call-is-an-nfc-pro-bowler-trying-to-woo-antonio-brown https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwith... "First call: NFC Pro Bowler trying to woo Steelers' Antonio Brown to 49ers?"
TheOperator 8y ago
You're the one making that connection. Not the reporters. Reporters also say that companies are "woo'ing" male executives all the time. I also wouldn't care if they were actually using gendered language but this isn't even an instance of that. More likely they used the word "Woo" for the sake of wordplay with the name "Lisa Su"
gumby 8y ago
I think there are plenty of cases of this being used for men, for companies etc. Also, Junko Yoshida is a woman and, given the thin staffing of EE times these days, probably writes the headlines as well. In short, I think this is OK. But I also upvoted your comment because I think it's worth discussing.
oh_sigh 8y ago
> google search 'woo site:cnn.com', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) 'Bachelor' fans 2) a male peanut seller 3) Trump 4) Trump 5) Trump > google search 'woo site:foxnews.com', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) John McCain 2) Doctors 3) Bernie Sanders 4) Retailers 5) SeaWorld > google search 'woo site:news.bbc.co.uk', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) US 2) US 3) Hwang-Woo-suk 4) Clinton and Obama 5) Japanese hotels

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard. Can we please not imagine there is sexism just because there is some stretchy reference which can be made to marital traditions? Just don't. It's not hard. "Woo" is often used in this very context, with both male and female employees, and has been since as far back as I can remember. In fact, it's not just used for CEOs, it's also used in the vernacular for anything involving finding personnel, where the variables are complex and the stakes are relatively high.

rdiddly 8y ago

I've seen it used plenty for men too though. Ironically they were probably seduced (wooed if you will) more by the rhyme (woo/Su). Mind you I still object to it, but on aesthetic grounds, i.e. it's lazy & cliché. "SoHo eateries woo Millenial foodies" would be my best attempt at a 100% cliché headline.

tallanvor 8y ago

There's nothing sexist about the word woo. Try doing a search of news articles and you'll clearly see that woo is used to refer to men, women, and groups regularly. Here's one example from earlier this year: https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwithbenz/14461150-74/first-call-is-an-nfc-pro-bowler-trying-to-woo-antonio-brown https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwith... "First call: NFC Pro Bowler trying to woo Steelers' Antonio Brown to 49ers?"

TheOperator 8y ago

You're the one making that connection. Not the reporters. Reporters also say that companies are "woo'ing" male executives all the time. I also wouldn't care if they were actually using gendered language but this isn't even an instance of that. More likely they used the word "Woo" for the sake of wordplay with the name "Lisa Su"

gumby 8y ago

I think there are plenty of cases of this being used for men, for companies etc. Also, Junko Yoshida is a woman and, given the thin staffing of EE times these days, probably writes the headlines as well. In short, I think this is OK. But I also upvoted your comment because I think it's worth discussing.

oh_sigh 8y ago

> google search 'woo site:cnn.com', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) 'Bachelor' fans 2) a male peanut seller 3) Trump 4) Trump 5) Trump > google search 'woo site:foxnews.com', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) John McCain 2) Doctors 3) Bernie Sanders 4) Retailers 5) SeaWorld > google search 'woo site:news.bbc.co.uk', first hits doing the wooing or getting wooed are: 1) US 2) US 3) Hwang-Woo-suk 4) Clinton and Obama 5) Japanese hotels