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Over a year ago Google removed the part of the hardware that caused that bug on the Home mini: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16462572/goo

Over a year ago Google removed the part of the hardware that caused that bug on the Home mini: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16462572/google-home-mini-permanently-remove-top-touch-after-recording-issue https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16462572/...

falcolas 8y ago
And so something like that can never happen again? Regressions are a very real thing, both in hardware and software.
- bduerst 8y ago
  I'm not sure how you would regress a button that physically doesn't exist anymore. Also, if you're that scared of future bugs that don't exist, then you should probably throw away your smart phone.
  - falcolas 8y ago
    The entire top surface of the Google Home is a button (capacitive). Those kinds of sensors are just as susceptible to physical defects as mechanical buttons. As a side note, whataboutism adds nothing of value to this discussion about the Google Home and Amazon Echo.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      And the capacitive button doesn't trigger the listening hardware. Splitting hairs over the hardware specifications isn't proof that the bug is still a problem. Also, talking about your contradictory behavior with your smartphone isn't whataboutism, unless you want to avoid addressing your hypocrisy, because smart phones are susceptible to the same blanket fears you have with homes/alexa. To critique only the latter, and not the former (which you use daily), is not fair.
      - falcolas 8y ago
        > And the capacitive button doesn't trigger the listening hardware. Per Google's own site: "Long press to trigger the Google Assistant."
  - andersonvom 8y ago
    I think the point is that bugs exist and will continue to exist: whether it's the same bug, a different one, mal-intent, negligence, or anything else. Sure, this one device won't solve every single problem out there, but should we not solve anything just because we can't solve everything?
    - bduerst 8y ago
      Right, and my point is that bugs will exist for all devices, not just these. Applying the logic, "bugs could happen" to just these devices isn't rational because it applies to all all devices, especially smart phones. We shouldn't ditch devices because of future potential for bugs that don't exist yet.

falcolas 8y ago

And so something like that can never happen again? Regressions are a very real thing, both in hardware and software.

bduerst 8y ago
I'm not sure how you would regress a button that physically doesn't exist anymore. Also, if you're that scared of future bugs that don't exist, then you should probably throw away your smart phone.
- falcolas 8y ago
  The entire top surface of the Google Home is a button (capacitive). Those kinds of sensors are just as susceptible to physical defects as mechanical buttons. As a side note, whataboutism adds nothing of value to this discussion about the Google Home and Amazon Echo.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    And the capacitive button doesn't trigger the listening hardware. Splitting hairs over the hardware specifications isn't proof that the bug is still a problem. Also, talking about your contradictory behavior with your smartphone isn't whataboutism, unless you want to avoid addressing your hypocrisy, because smart phones are susceptible to the same blanket fears you have with homes/alexa. To critique only the latter, and not the former (which you use daily), is not fair.
    - falcolas 8y ago
      > And the capacitive button doesn't trigger the listening hardware. Per Google's own site: "Long press to trigger the Google Assistant."
- andersonvom 8y ago
  I think the point is that bugs exist and will continue to exist: whether it's the same bug, a different one, mal-intent, negligence, or anything else. Sure, this one device won't solve every single problem out there, but should we not solve anything just because we can't solve everything?
  - bduerst 8y ago
    Right, and my point is that bugs will exist for all devices, not just these. Applying the logic, "bugs could happen" to just these devices isn't rational because it applies to all all devices, especially smart phones. We shouldn't ditch devices because of future potential for bugs that don't exist yet.