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"Use a bouncer" might be the answer there. All engineering is compromise, and needing a bit more compromise to support legacy applications is not unreasonable.

"Use a bouncer" might be the answer there. All engineering is compromise, and needing a bit more compromise to support legacy applications is not unreasonable. (In fact, why are you running a stream-oriented application over such an unreliable connection at all?)

lol768 8y ago
>"Use a bouncer" might be the answer there. Weechat and weechat-android are great choices here. Best CLI and Android IRC clients I've used, and I've tried quite a few.
anc84 8y ago
A bouncer is not a satisfying answer, then I could just use something web-based anyways. My Android tablet is on a stable WiFi network at home...
admax88q 8y ago
My XMPP client works perfectly on my Android phone. Prompt and reliable notifications of new messages. Better than most "Push Message" based clients I've used for other chat services. It's consistently the last in battery usage as well. Honestly I don't need the OS to protect me from poorly engineered apps, I just need it to correctly blame the apps so I know which ones to stop using.
- apexalpha 8y ago
  >Honestly I don't need the OS to protect me from poorly engineered apps, I just need it to correctly blame the apps so I know which ones to stop using. No, but the other 6 billion people on the planet do.
  - ndiscussion 8y ago
    Which is why Apple is so big. Also Walmart. Also Top40.
- vxNsr 8y ago
  Classic HN response. I'd guess a FTP and a linux file-server would solve all your filesharing woes as well. No dev making a mass market device or software should build as if the 1% graybeard engineer is gonna be the only user, that's a lot more user hostile.
  - dithering 8y ago
    Never mind HN, that's a classic Slashdot response.
  - stickfigure 8y ago
    Android's "these are the apps killing your battery life" interface is perfectly usable by Joe Everyuser. This is a specious argument.
    - vxNsr 8y ago
      Reality suggests otherwise. Every modern phone today will give you a list of the apps that take the most juice, and yet somehow for some reason people still install facebook. We might need to protect users from themselves.
      - admax88q 8y ago
        Or users could start holding facebook accountable for shitty battery life. I don't understand why phone manufacturers need to add features to protect facebook users from facebook. facebook has the money to build an app that isn't shit.
  - admax88q 8y ago
    The "which apps are using battery" feature is easily useable by novice users. However most phone vendors incorrectly assume "background connections" will drain battery life despite evidence to the contrary. Phone vendors have a vested interest though in forcing developers to use their proprietary "push" feature for syncing to phones, they say it's for "battery life" but really its about vendor lock in. A well engineered app can sync over its own TCP connection just fine and not hurt battery life, but then such an app can work on any device, not just blessed Android builds that have access to GCM.

lol768 8y ago

>"Use a bouncer" might be the answer there. Weechat and weechat-android are great choices here. Best CLI and Android IRC clients I've used, and I've tried quite a few.

anc84 8y ago

A bouncer is not a satisfying answer, then I could just use something web-based anyways. My Android tablet is on a stable WiFi network at home...

admax88q 8y ago

My XMPP client works perfectly on my Android phone. Prompt and reliable notifications of new messages. Better than most "Push Message" based clients I've used for other chat services. It's consistently the last in battery usage as well. Honestly I don't need the OS to protect me from poorly engineered apps, I just need it to correctly blame the apps so I know which ones to stop using.

apexalpha 8y ago
>Honestly I don't need the OS to protect me from poorly engineered apps, I just need it to correctly blame the apps so I know which ones to stop using. No, but the other 6 billion people on the planet do.
- ndiscussion 8y ago
  Which is why Apple is so big. Also Walmart. Also Top40.
vxNsr 8y ago
Classic HN response. I'd guess a FTP and a linux file-server would solve all your filesharing woes as well. No dev making a mass market device or software should build as if the 1% graybeard engineer is gonna be the only user, that's a lot more user hostile.
- dithering 8y ago
  Never mind HN, that's a classic Slashdot response.
- stickfigure 8y ago
  Android's "these are the apps killing your battery life" interface is perfectly usable by Joe Everyuser. This is a specious argument.
  - vxNsr 8y ago
    Reality suggests otherwise. Every modern phone today will give you a list of the apps that take the most juice, and yet somehow for some reason people still install facebook. We might need to protect users from themselves.
    - admax88q 8y ago
      Or users could start holding facebook accountable for shitty battery life. I don't understand why phone manufacturers need to add features to protect facebook users from facebook. facebook has the money to build an app that isn't shit.
- admax88q 8y ago
  The "which apps are using battery" feature is easily useable by novice users. However most phone vendors incorrectly assume "background connections" will drain battery life despite evidence to the contrary. Phone vendors have a vested interest though in forcing developers to use their proprietary "push" feature for syncing to phones, they say it's for "battery life" but really its about vendor lock in. A well engineered app can sync over its own TCP connection just fine and not hurt battery life, but then such an app can work on any device, not just blessed Android builds that have access to GCM.