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It's also a bit weird. Where I live is very expensive and far away from family but I live here because it's a nice area in proximity for jobs. What's to stop

It's also a bit weird. Where I live is very expensive and far away from family but I live here because it's a nice area in proximity for jobs. What's to stop me just moving somewhere cheaper after I get the remote job tired to location? Are they going to renegotiate with me? What if I just forward my mail and don't tell them. Further still, there are always expensive areas in poorer places and cheaper areas in expensive places. Are these companies going to start auditing our finances before they discuss renumeration?

detaro 8y ago
> Are they going to renegotiate with me? As an example, GitLab explicitly requires you to inform them and makes no guarantee about if and at what pay level they offer you a new contract. > What if I just forward my mail and don't tell them. Sounds like an interesting problem for the courts once they find out.
- ownagefool 8y ago
  Both answers seem ridiculous and like something that would quickly be dismissed in the employees favour in EU countries. But at the end of the day, do we really think gitlab is going to dimiss or renegotiate with a performing employee rather than this being a loophole to get rid of someone they don't value?
matz1 8y ago
> What's to stop me just moving somewhere cheaper after I get the remote job tired to location? Nothing, assuming I can find other people with the similar quality as you, but significantly cheaper because they live in lower cost of living area, why would I not replace you ?
- ownagefool 8y ago
  It's almost safe to assume they wouldn't hire me in the first place if they had the quality on tap significantly cheaper.
  - matz1 8y ago
    yes, the point is people (assuming similar work quality) living on cheaper place can afford to undercut other people living in more expensive place. That's why remote position usually pay less, because you are now competing globally.
    - ownagefool 8y ago
      Which goes back to the point, the price is the price and not, the price is variable based on location. Either there simply isn't enough value for anyone to be based in SF, or it should be possible to present similar value whilst being based elsewhere.
      - matz1 8y ago
        The only way you can demand SF area salary by living in let say vietnam is if you can convince your employer that they won't be able to find anyone else in the world that can do your job as good as you.

detaro 8y ago

> Are they going to renegotiate with me? As an example, GitLab explicitly requires you to inform them and makes no guarantee about if and at what pay level they offer you a new contract. > What if I just forward my mail and don't tell them. Sounds like an interesting problem for the courts once they find out.

ownagefool 8y ago
Both answers seem ridiculous and like something that would quickly be dismissed in the employees favour in EU countries. But at the end of the day, do we really think gitlab is going to dimiss or renegotiate with a performing employee rather than this being a loophole to get rid of someone they don't value?

matz1 8y ago

> What's to stop me just moving somewhere cheaper after I get the remote job tired to location? Nothing, assuming I can find other people with the similar quality as you, but significantly cheaper because they live in lower cost of living area, why would I not replace you ?

ownagefool 8y ago
It's almost safe to assume they wouldn't hire me in the first place if they had the quality on tap significantly cheaper.
- matz1 8y ago
  yes, the point is people (assuming similar work quality) living on cheaper place can afford to undercut other people living in more expensive place. That's why remote position usually pay less, because you are now competing globally.
  - ownagefool 8y ago
    Which goes back to the point, the price is the price and not, the price is variable based on location. Either there simply isn't enough value for anyone to be based in SF, or it should be possible to present similar value whilst being based elsewhere.
    - matz1 8y ago
      The only way you can demand SF area salary by living in let say vietnam is if you can convince your employer that they won't be able to find anyone else in the world that can do your job as good as you.