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Exactly. Many "good" companies do that as well, Mozilla for instance. It's fine if they don't pay top Bay Area rates (e.g. 500K-700K+ total comp), but playing t
by zerr 8y ago
Exactly. Many "good" companies do that as well, Mozilla for instance. It's fine if they don't pay top Bay Area rates (e.g. 500K-700K+ total comp), but playing the "we pay a competitive rate in your region " game doesn't cut it - I work remotely to escape my region rates - fortunately, there are companies who pay solely based on contribution rather than coordinates on the map.
- barry-cotter 8y agoThen new graduates and others with difficulty selling themselves start working for the coordinates people and after six months or a year they leave to go work for the contribution people. The more and faster that happens the quicker companies will convert from the former to the latter.
- danielmg 8y agoI'm sorry - $500k! I work for a big US company in the UK in a senior role and I get $150k approx. I work just outside London but I regularly have to attend meetings right in the City. I'm going to move to Mexico before Trump gets his wall!
- zerr 8y agoYou can stay in London, e.g. Facebook pays mid to high six-figures (GBP). Seven-figure is also possible for some (incl. bonus), even for IC engineers. They are poaching engineers from finance sector.
- sciurus 8y agoHaving talked to 1) one coworker who moved from the bay area to the midwest 2) another coworker evaluating NYC vs other potential places to live in the US it seems like what Mozilla pays doesn't differ that much across their different US geographic salary bands. Both coworkers found it would be more favorable for them to take the small pay cut in exchange for a dramatic cost and quality of living difference.
- zerr 8y agoI meant the gap between the US and e.g. Zimbabwe or Pakistan. As I've mentioned to Gitlab's CEO here, you should aim for fairness in terms of the quality of life. Otherwise, if you go with the "region market rate" - I bet someone living in US or Canada (or Switzerland) has much better quality of life compared to someone in Zimbabwe or any other poor/developing (or non-developing) country. And yes, someone from Mozilla confirmed here some time ago that they do differentiate salaries based on the country/region - they won't pay "US salary" to someone in Ukraine for instance.