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Here's all of the California data: https://oshpd.ca.gov/data-and-reports/cost-transparency/hospital-chargemasters/2018-chargemasters/ https://oshpd.ca.gov/data

• aboutruby 8y ago
  Read a random one, "Kaiser Foundation Hospital - San Francisco", Common25 is quite readable. but "CDM" is exactly as described in the article, it's basically an endless list of codenamed items. > Emergency Room Visit, Level 2 (low to moderate severity) $1,185.00 > Emergency Room Visit, Level 3 (moderate severity) $2,105.00 > Emergency Room Visit, Level 4 (high severity without signigicant threat) $3,263.00 > Emergency Room Visit, Level 4 (high severity with significant threat) $5,009.00 I guess that's the very minimum base price, quite offensive for an european like me.
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  • tyfon 8y ago
    Yes, here the emergency rooms are not allowed to even ask for name in case it will be a deterrent for an illegal immigrant to seek health care. Health care is a basic human right. We had an incident where a hospital here tried to charge an illegal for giving birth. It was an uproar in the news for weeks and the bill was dropped and hospital fined.
    • assblaster 8y ago
      >Health care is a basic human right. How do you compel physicians to treat someone against their wishes? Threat of violence or other bodily harm? Genuinely curious how you Europeans enforce that "human right".
      • cr1895 8y ago
        I'm struggling to understand how you've connected "health care is a basic right" to the state imposing something on a person by threat of violence.
        • assblaster 8y ago
          How do you compel physicians to treat someone who comes to them asking for services? If a physician refuses to perform a knee replacement, for instance, because a patient does not want to pay for it, does the government step in and force the physician to do it? In the United States, physicians have autonomy to decide how they practice. Do physicians in Europe have autonomy?
          • detaro 8y ago
            The vast majority of emergency departments in the US is not allowed to turn someone away if they need emergency care. Somehow, that works even there. (even though due to lack of universal healthcare payment is not secured) Many jurisdictions, including some US states, legally require everyone to provide emergency aid if possible, not just doctors. The entire talking point about the individual doctor is a tired straw man, societies manage people having rights guaranteed by the system of society all the time, they do not break down if an individual person steps out of line.
        • mcv 8y ago
          Forcing people under threat of violence is a popular strawman with people who oppose a civil society. Maybe it's the only way they can think of to get things done?
          • assblaster 8y ago
            It's not a straw man, it's a practical question. If healthcare was a human right, you should be able to describe how you enforce that right, especially when someone infringes upon that right, such as a physician who refuses to provide services requested by a patient.